Lowering testosterone for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) blood test

[NewChapter]

Unfortunately, I can't use Ultimate Life Vitality because I live in Canada... I think it's harder to get a prescription for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) up here. I've looked into doing a restart but my test level was this low even before I started using AAS so I think I'm naturally at this level. I've run a couple solid post cycle therapy (pct)s in the past but they've only brought me back to the low 300s, no higher.


I think I'm going to try the npp route. I'll shoot 100-150mg tonight, Thurs, Fri and then go for the blood test on Sat. Fri night I'll fast, drink, and stay up all night before the test. After the blood test, I'll wait a few days and then start a short clomid/nolva post cycle therapy (pct) to recover. I think this should get the job done. Hopefully it doesn't drop me too low though... A few shots of npp wouldn't show up on a blood test, would it?

Im very interested in how this will play out. If you would please add me to your friends or whatever so you dont forget me LOL and let me know how it works out for you. I m looking at testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) also but Im still finishing up a cycle so Itll have to wait. I believe my insurance will cover this also. So I certainly would appreciate it if you would keep me in the loop on this. Thanks! Stupid question but what is npp?

 

[Mavaleu]

I've heard of people using alcohol to suppress levels before getting tests; a few heavy days of drinking ought to do the trick.

 

[blitzalpha]

Has anyone used deca/npp to temporarily lower their testosterone level? If so, which dosage did you use and when did you use it? Also, I've read that the same can be accomplished using a GNRH antagonist. Does anyone have experience with this?

Would just not sleeping for 24 hours prior to a blood test be enough to reduce your testosterone from 300 to 200?

 

[methos]

I would go the route of not sleeping for as long as possible. I few guys have mentioned this on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum. This may be signficant enough to work on it's own.

 

[rikta]

Same here

 

[josh223]

you could just stay up for like 3 days, your testosterone levels replenish while you sleep

 

[blitzalpha]

I'll try staying up as long as possible and drinking the night before the blood test. Could the alcohol show up in the blood test results or make them unreadable? Would a single 100mg shot of NPP 24 hours prior to the test to ensure a low test level cause any harm?

 

[BigFella]

Just PMd you.

From someone who just did it: no sleep, lots of booze, treating myself like total shit = 46. Good enough for me.

I reckon if you can't get it below 250 "naturally" you probably don't need it.

The second night with no sleep and lots of booze was not easy! Dunno how I used to do it for weeks on end 40 years ago!

 

[BigFella]

Oh, one more thing: they are testing T, not whether you're too drunk to drive! You'll be fine.

 

[blitzalpha]

Thanks for the info Big... that's exactly what I was looking for! I wanted to see how much of an effect that no sleep and lots of alcohol will have on test levels. It appears that it should be enough to do the job if it dropped you from 300 test down to 50. Did you change your diet at all prior to the test? If you cut out fat/carbs for a day before the test it should reduce test levels as well.

Here's an interesting article that I came across: Your Doctor, Your Dealer

Just PMd you.

From someone who just did it: no sleep, lots of booze, treating myself like total shit = 46. Good enough for me.

I reckon if you can't get it below 250 "naturally" you probably don't need it.

The second night with no sleep and lots of booze was not easy! Dunno how I used to do it for weeks on end 40 years ago!

 

[BrianP]

Dude

You dont need to drink alchool and stay days with no sleep...

If you do some research you will find out that your testosterone levels go down throught the day...

It all depends on the time you are used to going to sleep and waking up... and how long you have been up for...


I saw someone commenting that testosterone levels will decrease if you get less than 5 hours a sleep/day for a few days but not much... and you cant sleep during the afternoon or naps because that might ruin the deccrease of testosterone..


Now answer me this: on your previous blood withdrawl for the testosterone exam, how long after you woke up was the blood taken from you? was it in the morning or the afternoon?


Lets say you get a good night of sleep and wake up at 8 am, at 2 pm or so (afternoon) your testosterone levels will have been decreased significantly (half the testosterone you had when you woke up), but that is normal so you dont feel it, you wont have lower libido at night or anything lol... but the longer you are awake, the lower testosterone you will have on your blood..


So if you are collecting blood at 9 am then you could try something like going to bed at 8 pm and waking up at 3 am then stay awake at least until the blood withdrawl and just to help, sleep less than 5 hours/night until the blood is taken

From all the studies i have seen, they all say that in the morning is when the testosterone peaks but i dont know if it is just matter of speech... what i mean is, i dont know if its in the morning that the testosterone peaks or if its when you wake up, but i think its about when you wake up and not the period of the day (morning, afternoon, night) but if you just want to make sure or if its too hard for you to wake up at 3 am and stay a whole day with no sleep then you could wake up at like 7 am then go get your blood taken at like 1-2 pm, your test lvls should have been decreased a lot already.... and you only need 4 hours of no food for testosterone exam so you should be fine when taking it during the day



Last exam i took my test came at 524 ng/dl (had it at 9 am) nearly the time i woke up.... the other exam i took (1 week later) came back at 392 ng/dl (woke up at around 8-9 and took the blood at around 1 pm)


So if you are taking it on the afternoon, hope that your doctor doesnt see the tim stamp hahah... i think the best way is to do what i said, wake up at 3 am and stay awake until morning then take the blood, you testosterone levels should have decreased at least from 300 to 200 and that is slow enough i think


good luck

 

[BigFella]

Brian: I agree totally. You don't NEED to stay up all night and get plastered for a few days. I think I proved that with my new low score. I didn't need a 46 - a 200 would have been fine. I wish I had been able to predict what my score would be - I wouldn't have had to treat myself so bad. It wasn't fun like in the old days.

I just NEEDED to make sure of a score under 200. (And I definitely succeeded - to the extent that my doc is now insisting on a pituitary MRI. What ever.)

Blitz: I was still eating well, but in the context of everything else I was doing to myself a few greasy bugers wouldn't have made much difference.

One thing I definitely should have added - sorry. I left it out because I don't believe it counted for that much; with the benefit of hindsight it probably did: I have been using AndroForte, a 5% scrotally applied T cream, and I had lowered my usage of it prior to the blood draw. It would have affected my natural production, but I don't think it was a sufficiently high consideration in the very low score, mainly because at he time I don't believe I was absorbing much - I certainly didn't feel much different.

Summary: I still reckon that if you really treat ourself badly, booze and all, and no sleep, for a few days, you WILL score low.

And the key thing is sleep. Don't have any for two nights and you'll be fine.

Edit:

Brian's right. Take the test later in the day. But I'll bet the time is on there, as well as if you have been fasting. Certainly is on all mine. So if your doc is a total curmudgeon he may send you back for an 8:00 am one. Just beat yourself up and don't admit it to him!

 

[rikta]

Good article blitzalpha

 

[BigFella]

Great article you linked to up there, Blitz.

 

[blitzalpha]

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll start using your suggestions Thurs night and then go for the blood test Sat morning. Hopefully I can score low enough so I won't have to go through with this again!

 

[espiridion4604]

Just PMd you.

From someone who just did it: no sleep, lots of booze, treating myself like total shit = 46. Good enough for me.

I reckon if you can't get it below 250 "naturally" you probably don't need it.

The second night with no sleep and lots of booze was not easy! Dunno how I used to do it for weeks on end 40 years ago!

That's why we check with two different blood draws. We also draw an SHBG that tells me a lot of information.

 

[espiridion4604]

If you look like a body builder and I look at your SHBG, I'll be able to tell whether and how recent you've had testo. Nice try though.

 

[we ajmfd]

lowering Testosterone Ketoconazole (antifugal cream)

Isn't there a faster way of doing this rather than running a 6-8 week cycle? My doctor wants me to take the blood test within the next week. If I just take one 100mg shot of deca/npp a couple days before the blood test it should temporarily shut down my natural test and drop my level shouldn't it? I'm guessing npp would be best since it would clear my system the fastest. If I test low enough, my doctor may decide to send me to an endo/urologist before he puts me on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) which may take a couple of months so I will want to recover my test level as quickly as possible after this blood test. Has anyone tried using an opiate such as codeine to temporarily lower their test level? Any other ideas?

I just read your post and suposedly you can significantly lower your testosterone with an antifungal pill name Ketoconozole. I was going to take it to lower my Test but it was low enough for my doc. Supposedly taking it for 3-4 days prior to the blood test is enough but I would do a week just in case. Look it up theres a lot of articles and studies about it.