ls it ok to mix you dose of pure sustanon with water containing other substances?

Xbee

Xbee

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I shot .1 ml into my leg mixed with .5 ml water. Total dosage was 25mg sust, 20 mcg igf1 les, 100iu hcg. It hardly hurt and kicked in real fast.

After sleeping for about two hours after the shot i woke up with kidney and liver discomfort so i drank water and took liver support and it worked. Pain went away in around 20 minutes.

Did the pure form and water dilution cause an unhealthy surge of test to the liver?

Edit. 12/10/12

All of the injection sites and are still slightly swollen. I feel the effects of all three compounds was hampered and get better results when the compounds are taken separately. Im pretty sure the sust should go in the sringe frst that way the water gets absorbed faster. Think ill just avoid oil and use insulin needles so i can pin more often.
 
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LIVER discomfort ??? What s that feel like ...?

How d you manage to get 25 mg s of sust measured....?

100 iu s hcg ??

WTF ???

Ur mental...
 
Yeah I agree with Teutonic...what the hell are you doing? Sounds like you need to read a lot more before you mess with aas.
 
For the sust i just made sure the sust vial was at normal pressure. Then i prepared the hcg and igf1 clearedas the needle and wiped it with a cotton ball with rubbing alcohol then pulled out .1 ml on the syringe from the sustanon vial. Cleared needle again and swirled to mix.

The liver discomfort is like feeling the liver. I dont normally feel it so its uncomfortable to me.

As for needing to read more im sure your right but ive been reading about steroids for years and can never seem to retain anything so its an endless cycle. Ive attempted to take notes but they dont make sense mostly. Im not afraid to inject everyday and just thought id get some opinions before I change dosages. I think 25 mg may have been to much.

Tomorrow im going to try again but hydrate and take milk thistle an hour before shot to see if its ok to continue at this dose.
 
Xbee said:
For the sust i just made sure the sust vial was at normal pressure. Then i prepared the hcg and igf1 clearedas the needle and wiped it with a cotton ball with rubbing alcohol then pulled out .1 ml on the syringe from the sustanon vial. Cleared needle again and swirled to mix.

The liver discomfort is like feeling the liver. I dont normally feel it so its uncomfortable to me.

As for needing to read more im sure your right but ive been reading about steroids for years and can never seem to retain anything so its an endless cycle. Ive attempted to take notes but they dont make sense mostly. Im not afraid to inject everyday and just thought id get some opinions before I change dosages. I think 25 mg may have been to much.

Tomorrow im going to try again but hydrate and take milk thistle an hour before shot to see if its ok to continue at this dose.
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This has to be trolling.


I've been researching for like 8 months, and while there is lots of conflicting advice at times, the same basic stuff pops up everywhere.
 
25mg of sust. is too much...wtf. I must be a freak because my last cycle I was taking 500mg a week of sust. on top of 1200mg test and my liver still loves me!
 
Hey if you guys want to play buddy why dont you play butt buddy with each other and take your worthless comments elsewhere.
 
relax they thought you were people that just come on ology to fuck with people. You need to be taking atleast 500mg a week of that sust or you're gonna be wasting your time. Do 250 on monday and 250 on thursday. good luck
 
Do not mix your oils with your water based compounds. As mentioned above, you should do two 250 mg shots of sust a week. I recommend using a 3cc syringe with a 25g x 1" needle. Your sust probably says 250mg/ml on the bottle. That means 1cc is 250 mgs. You want to inject this into your glutes 2x a week. I think your 20mcgs of igf should be done in the morning post workout with an insulin syringe. Your hcg should be done with an insulin syringe atleast 200iu's 3x a week.
You will not feel any of these injections "kick in". And none of these will make your liver uncomfortable. And none of them require liver support.
Lastly, what is your plan? Do you have a cycle laid out? What about post cycle therapy (pct)? Do you already have the required meds?
If you dont understand everything i just told you, and you didnt answer yes to the last few questions then stop what you are doing right now, go to the stickies on this site and take fucking notes if you have to. Dont do anymore injections until you understand exactly what you are doing.
Get your shit together and everyone will be here to help you.
 
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Do not mix your oils with your water based compounds. As mentioned above, you should do two 250 mg shots of sust a week. I recommend using a 3cc syringe with a 25g x 1" needle. Your sust probably says 250mg/ml on the bottle. That means 1cc is 250 mgs. You want to inject this into your glutes 2x a week. I think your 20mcgs of igf should be done in the morning post workout with an insulin syringe. Your hcg should be done with an insulin syringe atleast 200iu's 3x a week.
You will not feel any of these injections "kick in". And none of these will make your liver uncomfortable. And none of them require liver support.
Lastly, what is your plan? Do you have a cycle laid out? What about post cycle therapy (pct)? Do you already have the required meds?
If you dont understand everything i just told you, and you didnt answer yes to the last few questions then stop what you are doing right now, go to the stickies on this site and take fucking notes if you have to. Dont do anymore injections until you understand exactly what you are doing.
Get your shit together and everyone will be here to help you.
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polite in your ways you are very young jedi, me liiiike me liiike.
 
You will not feel any of these injections "kick in". And none of these will make your liver uncomfortable. And none of them require liver support.

Lastly, what is your plan? Do you have a cycle laid out? What about post cycle therapy (pct)? Do you already have the required meds.

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Thanks i must have just been dehydrated. That happens sometimes when i dont drink enough water.

I did have a cycle laid out on excel spreadsheet but decided it was dumb and decided the best way would be take it all at once mixed together. Today is third day of injecting like this and went fine.

I cant bring myself to raise my levels of testosterone that high. Im afraid of what it might do to me since im pretty sensitive to drugs. I dont know for sure but ive been thinking about how higher levels like 250 mg shots might have bad effects on your recovery but lower daily shots have less effect on recovery. Cant seem to find any info on it but thats whats holding me back.

Is there any affect on brain that is seen at higher
I was planning to do this for about a month and then 20 mg nolvadex for a month. Was also planning to take hcg if atrophy is noticed during pct hopfully it isnt.
 
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Xbee said:
You will not feel any of these injections "kick in". And none of these will make your liver uncomfortable. And none of them require liver support.

Lastly, what is your plan? Do you have a cycle laid out? What about post cycle therapy (pct)? Do you already have the required meds.

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Thanks i must have just been dehydrated. That happens sometimes when i dont drink enough water.

I did have a cycle laid out on excel spreadsheet but decided it was dumb and decided the best way would be take it all at once mixed together. Today is third day of injecting like this and went fine.

I cant bring myself to raise my levels of testosterone that high. Im afraid of what it might do to me since im pretty sensitive to drugs. I dont know for sure but ive been thinking about how higher levels like 250 mg shots might have bad effects on your recovery but lower daily shots have less effect on recovery. Cant seem to find any info on it but thats whats holding me back.

Is there any affect on brain that is seen at higher
I was planning to do this for about a month and then 20 mg nolvadex for a month. Was also planning to take hcg if atrophy is noticed during pct hopfully it isnt.
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Ok, your responses are a good indication that you arent ready to cycle. It doesnt surprise me that this is the case. Are you still mixing the oil and water based compounds, stupid if you are. A sust dose that low will not give you any benefits, so why do it? Second of all, doses that low dont require nolvadex or hcg. Third of all, a month long cycle is useless. As I said before, we are here for you, but you have got to do some solid research first. Dont waste our time. All of the information is already here. If you dont understand something then ask a question. Nobody likes to answer uneducated questions when the answers are already here.
Im not being a dick, im giving you this advice as if you were my best friend. Stop what you are doing right now. Go to the stickies and read them. This information was put together by people with years of experience, so dont question the protocols, but if you have questions, please ask them. If you dont take the initiative to educate yourself now, before proceeding, then myself and others will not have the time to hold your hand.
BTW, how old are you? Whats your stats? What are your goals? What country do you live in? Have you ever done any gear before? (i hope not)
 
250mg is a standard testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. All you did with your fucked up cycling is shut down your natural test production to add a lower amount of exogenous test. You actually did yourself worse by giving yourself a lower amount of test than your body makes.
 
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