MAP or BCAA's?

Hey how do you like the assault?

its good, not crazy, but its in there with the top ones....i heard a non-stim version is coming, plus i noticed they added con-cret (which i think is crazy good), but didnt try this version.....id say

stim-wise
1-usplabs jacked
2-mp assault, bpi 1mr, acc nut musclespeed

non-stim
1-primordial premax
2-top secret no370

im using map, gplc, beta alanine, caff, now its okay, as i want to get away from the 1,3 d stuff

i will say, the gplc pumps and tightness are good, but the pump i got from no370 was ph esque....really really good stuff, focus too....was a sample, but im going to buy for sure now
 
I have never heard of top secret no370, anyway Pre Max is great loving it stacked with beta-alanine...
 
I have never heard of top secret no370, anyway Pre Max is great loving it stacked with beta-alanine...

its new, used it with the astrovar i got, im thinking of ordering it, it really surprised me, definately can hold its own with soem of the other prewo supps

beta alanine i love, when my face is going crazy, its odd, its annoying but i like it.....iv been using the beta a from you guys, and i still get that feeling, when stuff like jack3d, it went away after a few uses....3.6g pre, 1.8g post
 
What doses do you run for premax and beta alanine?

Two sccops Pre Max before workout with 1 scoop MAP, 2-3 scoops MAP during, depending on intensity and length of training. As far as BA I have started the day long dosing 6 scoops throughout the day and it is quite frankly a whole different animal this way. I also sip on MAP throughout the day...
 
its new, used it with the astrovar i got, im thinking of ordering it, it really surprised me, definately can hold its own with soem of the other prewo supps

beta alanine i love, when my face is going crazy, its odd, its annoying but i like it.....iv been using the beta a from you guys, and i still get that feeling, when stuff like jack3d, it went away after a few uses....3.6g pre, 1.8g post

Glad you like the BA, it's very high quality.
As far as the pre workout is it stim based<sure it is...

Anytime I read astro in front of something I think of astroglide, lol.
 
its new, used it with the astrovar i got, im thinking of ordering it, it really surprised me, definately can hold its own with soem of the other prewo supps

beta alanine i love, when my face is going crazy, its odd, its annoying but i like it.....iv been using the beta a from you guys, and i still get that feeling, when stuff like jack3d, it went away after a few uses....3.6g pre, 1.8g post

Thats why sometimes I prefer single bulk powders and just make my own drinks (pre, intra, post ).
 
Thats why sometimes I prefer single bulk powders and just make my own drinks (pre, intra, post ).

comes with exp....guys will always buy into the ads, and throw back these prop blends, until they realize they only need certain ingredients, and bulk wise they can be manipulated better
 
Thing is the majority of pre workout users are looking for the stim and pump, that's it. It's almost an addiction...
 
comes with exp....guys will always buy into the ads, and throw back these prop blends, until they realize they only need certain ingredients, and bulk wise they can be manipulated better

My issue with prop blends is not knowing what the dosages are at all. Sometimes you look at an ingredient, in order of dosage, and realize that either some of them, or all of them are significantly underdosed.
 
My issue with prop blends is not knowing what the dosages are at all. Sometimes you look at an ingredient, in order of dosage, and realize that either some of them, or all of them are significantly underdosed.

its all of them...then laced with caffeine, and a sexy label, and priced at $35 for something that has $4 worth of shit in it
 
You mean most pre-workouts are just stims with no real performance benefits? Wow who would of thought...
 
its all of them...then laced with caffeine, and a sexy label, and priced at $35 for something that has $4 worth of shit in it

I certainly agree. I have found the best solutions to be Premax, or much more often a combination of bulks. I did score a tub of Lit Up, which in my opinion is the current best of the stim offerings.
 
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