Max OT, is it really cracked up to be all that?

[norlak]

Hi, Ive only been doing Max-OT for two weeks now (im in the second week) and I can really feel as if i can do more sets. However, when reading the Max-OT "bible" it states clearly that I should strictly follow what is said.

What do you guys think? Max-OT is very convincing when you read it, but it doesnt really feel as if it is making me bigger, most of my time I just load and unload the weights

 

[Vegas]

Hi, Ive only been doing Max-OT for two weeks now (im in the second week) and I can really feel as if i can do more sets.

2 weeks isn't enough time to know whether a training system is "working" for you or not. You have to give it more time. As for feeling like you can do more sets, everyone is always obsessed with doing more sets early on. It's natural. However, you have to be careful that you simply aren't putting enough effort into your work sets and that is why you think you should be doing more. Volume is not your friend, intensity is.

 

[roccodart440]

Aboot i'm going to have to dissagree with you on a few points.

I think 2 weeks is enough time to know whether a training system is working for you. 3-4 would be netter but if you can't see or feel somthing in 14 days. Somthing is wrong.

I think a perfect ballence and mix of volume and intensity is essential. Sometimes these have to be divided into two workouts to balence out the week. To say volume is not your friend is bit misleading.

 

[Button Buck]

When you say intensity do you mean heavy as you can go for that rep range + as little rest time in between as possible?

I think 2 weeks is kinda short for noticing if something is working, I would think 1-1.5 months is about right to see.

 

[Vegas]

I think 2 weeks is enough time to know whether a training system is working for you. 3-4 would be netter but if you can't see or feel somthing in 14 days. Somthing is wrong.

How would you quantify this? Visible increases in muscle size? Strength increases? Two weeks is a very short period of time to guage this in my opinion.

 

[Bast]

2 weeks is nowhere near the amount youll need before you can say if its working.
I have used Max-ot and liked it. You dont have to follow everything certainly the things about their stuff being best.
But as always diet is muy importante!

 

[norlak]

hmm ok I guess ill keep doing it then... It just seems as if not many people follow max-ot anymore.. many people doing high sets or high reps... Last year max-ot was very hyped however..

 

[getfitdoc]

What is your training history (How long have you been training)?

What is your age, height and weight?

 

[ghoastfacekilla]

With Max-Ot at the end of the workout many peopleincludiny myself still feel like they have fuel left in the tank. However thats a normal feelign and has to be ignored.

 

[Suareezay]

Aboot i'm going to have to dissagree with you on a few points.

I think 2 weeks is enough time to know whether a training system is working for you. 3-4 would be netter but if you can't see or feel somthing in 14 days. Somthing is wrong.

I think a perfect ballence and mix of volume and intensity is essential. Sometimes these have to be divided into two workouts to balence out the week. To say volume is not your friend is bit misleading.

what so you expect to accomplish in 2 weeks?

sore muscles? you can accomplish that by doing db flyes and db kickbacks for hours. I can "feel" concentration curls all day long, so what?

change in body composition? 1. you cant make a drastic change in your body composition in 2 weeks short of an m1t/4ad stack, and even those gains would be very very minimal. DNP is about the only thing that would have any effect on fat loss in two weeks, or possibly a severe crash diet. Anybody whos past the noob stage of lifting isnt going to gain a even a substantial amount of muscle in 2 weeks. No max-ot, DC, westside, HST, etc program is going to accomplish anything noticeable in 2 weeks.

You cant judge a thing in two weeks.

As for volume vs. intensity...plenty of people make great gains from doing 20 sets of bench 3 times a week and curling for hours on end in the squat rack. Will most people? No.

As for the original question...its a decent program, i did it for a while (probably more than 6 months IIRC) and made constant, substantial strength gains. Its not the end all be all program, but it works. If you follow it consistently, eat like your supposed to, and give it time, youll gain with it.

 

[Mudge]

I think 2 weeks is enough time to know whether a training system is working for you. 3-4 would be netter but if you can't see or feel somthing in 14 days.

On some level I'd agree, but doing nothing for 2 weeks could illicit strength gains in some people. I find it sometimes true after taking a week off, so does this prove that doing nothing will make me stronger, and thusly probably bigger?

Almost any changup can affect you in 2 weeks, I'd prefer longer to really decide if I like something or not.

 

[pretty ricky]

rocco says some stupid shit from time to time!you gots to go longer than 2 weeks to know anything.in my expirence i got to go a month or more.but sayin that i been doign the 3 day pling routine and think it's been by far the best.low volume high intensity nice good breaks between sets.

 

[dospuntos96]

i did max-ot for 16 weeks and got hellastrong on it faster than any other routine i've done without gear. it works. but you say you feel like u can do more sets. b.s. u just aren't going all out each set. as far as size, i gained maybe 8lbs and kept my b.f. at 8-10 percent. u just hafta be careful not to get hurt, cuz throwin heavy weight's dangerous. I've gone to 4-6-8 reverse pyramids, max-ot style, and got almost as strong doing that in one 8 week cycle than in 12 weeks on traditional max-ot protocol. stay with it thru the 8 week cycle, go a little more intense, and you'll be amazed, i think.

 

[dospuntos96]

and by moer intense, i mean up the weight. but keep the rest @ 2-2.5 minutes. or u won't be able to keep your weight constant.