mid cycle bloods - 500mg Test E / Week

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b_pizzle

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I first want to start off thanking everything who's helped me thus far through my first cycle! I know some of my questions might have seemed a bit rudimentary so for that I thank you!

SO I just got back my "mid-cycle" blood results today. They were taken at the start of my week 8 test e 500mg/week 12 week cycle. I meant to get my bloods a couple weeks earlier but found absolutely no time with my work schedule and my finals week for school, I apologize for that.

My pre cycle bloods came back normal. Nothing out of range. I copy and pasted my mid-cycle results below. Just to clarify I have been running test e 500 mg/week, Adex .5mg EOD, HCG 500iu/week, along with raloxifene 60mg/day (I'm sensitive and very scared of gyno!).

My red blood cell count, hemoglobin, and hematocrit were all high. My hematocrit being 53.3 with the normal range being 38.5-50.0. Is this normal on mid cycle bloods? What should I do for this? Donate blood? The next criteria that was out of range was my absolute eosinophils. Not quite sure what these are? Is there anything that should be done to help accommodate this? And then my FSH and LH were both shot being way lower than the normal range. I have heard that this was normal on mid cycle bloods but I thought maybe the HCG I've been taking might have kept them at a somewhat decent level? Does this mean my HCG is no good? Then my estradiol came back completely normal which surprised me a bit because I've been having a mild gyno flare up. If not due to abnormal estradiol levels then what else? Last but not least, my testosterone came back at 3511 which is good right? haha

Those are just my concerns and questions over my bloodwork. Other than that the cycle is going great. I'm up about 15 pounds. All my lifts have gone up as well.

Again, any help is greatly appreciated!!

COMPREHENSIVE ********* PANEL
GLUCOSE 83 65-99 mg/dL 01

Fasting reference interval
UREA NITROGEN (BUN) 16 7-25 mg/dL 01
CREATININE 1.29 0.60-1.35 mg/dL 01
eGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 79 > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2 01
eGFR AFRICAN AMERICAN 92 > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2 01
BUN/CREATININE RATIO NOT APPLICABLE 6-22 (calc) 01
SODIUM 139 135-146 mmol/L 01
POTASSIUM 4.5 3.5-5.3 mmol/L 01
CHLORIDE 103 98-110 mmol/L 01
CARBON DIOXIDE 27 19-30 mmol/L 01
CALCIUM 10.0 8.6-10.3 mg/dL 01
PROTEIN, TOTAL 7.2 6.1-8.1 g/dL 01
ALBUMIN 4.4 3.6-5.1 g/dL 01
GLOBULIN 2.8 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc) 01
ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 1.6 1.0-2.5 (calc) 01
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 0.8 0.2-1.2 mg/dL 01
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 92 40-115 U/L 01
AST 24 10-40 U/L 01
ALT 27 9-46 U/L 01
CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.7 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL 01

RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.93 HIGH 4.20-5.80 Million/uL 01
HEMOGLOBIN 17.4 HIGH 13.2-17.1 g/dL 01
HEMATOCRIT 53.3 HIGH 38.5-50.0 % 01

MCV 89.9 80.0-100.0 fL 01
MCH 29.4 27.0-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 32.7 32.0-36.0 g/dL 01
RDW 14.1 11.0-15.0 % 01
PLATELET COUNT 302 140-400 Thousand/uL 01
MPV 8.7 7.5-11.5 fL 01
ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS 3004 1500-7800 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR 0-750 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE METAMYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE MYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE PROMYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES 1687 850-3900 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 410 200-950 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS 587 HIGH 15-500 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS 11 0-200 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BLASTS DNR 0 cells/uL 01
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ABSOLUTE NUCLEATED RBC DNR 0 cells/uL 01
NEUTROPHILS 52.7 % 01
BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR % 01
METAMYELOCYTES DNR % 01
MYELOCYTES DNR % 01
PROMYELOCYTES DNR % 01
LYMPHOCYTES 29.6 % 01
REACTIVE LYMPHOCYTES DNR 0-10 % 01
MONOCYTES 7.2 % 01
EOSINOPHILS 10.3 % 01
BASOPHILS 0.2 % 01
BLASTS DNR % 01
NUCLEATED RBC DNR 0 /100 WBC 01
COMMENT(S) DNR 01

FSH
FSH <0.7 LOW 1.6-8.0 mIU/mL 01
LH
LH <0.2 LOW 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL 01

ESTRADIOL
ESTRADIOL 36 < OR = 39 pg/mL 01
Reference range established on post-pubertal patient
population. No pre-pubertal reference range
established using this assay. For any patients for
whom low Estradiol levels are anticipated (e.g. males,
pre-pubertal children and hypogonadal/post-menopausal
females), the Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive, LCMSMS assay is recommended
(order code 30289).

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS 3511 HIGH 250-1100 ng/dL 02
TOTAL TESTOSTERONE; Confirmed by repeat analysis.
 
1. Go donate blood. You are correct in that hemoglobin/hematocrit rise on cycle, and donating is the way to reduce it.

2. HCG *mimics* LH, it ISN'T LH. As such, it won't show up on a panel unless you select HCG. You can buy a pregnancy test to verify, or simply gauge by the size of your nuts. If they've shrunk considerably, it's likely either bunk, or you're not using enough.

3. Eosonophils are essentially markers for infection, but allergies or even a cold can cause them to elevate. I wouldn't worry too much about this one as it's not extremely out of range.

4. Please explain your gyno. A lot of guys SWEAR they have gynecomastia, when it's literally just water retention under the nipples. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's easily the most misdiagnosed symptom in the game. However, if it is indeed truly gyno, you just may be extremely sensitive to estradiol - and require a SERM on cycle.

Everything else looks fine to me (0 LH/FSH means your gear is real), just be sure to get on that blood donation. ;)

My .02c :)
 
Wow, a double post. And I always thought I was impervious. :(



I think webhost needs some tren guys. :nono:
 
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Much appreciated my dude!! Sorry for such a late reply but i've been so busy and my internet has been on the fritz lol I donated blood though so i should be good! Just wrapped my 12 weeks up so i'll be getting my post cycle in a few. And yes unfortunately and am certain that is gyno. I got it from being an idiot a few years back on some PH's and since then it has come and gone. It's not out of control but it has flared up with this cycle despite my .5mg EOD adex and 60mg/day ralox (serm) dosage. That is what stumped me is that my hormones came back perfectly fine. I'm thinking maybe a prolactin problem? Don't know what else it could be, but thanks again for all the help!
 
b_pizzle said:
Much appreciated my dude!! Sorry for such a late reply but i've been so busy and my internet has been on the fritz lol I donated blood though so i should be good! Just wrapped my 12 weeks up so i'll be getting my post cycle in a few. And yes unfortunately and am certain that is gyno. I got it from being an idiot a few years back on some PH's and since then it has come and gone. It's not out of control but it has flared up with this cycle despite my .5mg EOD adex and 60mg/day ralox (serm) dosage. That is what stumped me is that my hormones came back perfectly fine. I'm thinking maybe a prolactin problem? Don't know what else it could be, but thanks again for all the help!
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Prolactin doesn't cause gyno, it just turns existing gyno into milk faucets. I'd get a doctor to look at your chest once you're free and clear from PCT. Usually a SERM, ESPECIALLY raloxifene will be sufficient - so I'd get a pro to take a gander at it. Just blame it on puberty, as you don't want to get into the whole hormone issue.
 
mike43 said:
If a dude has sex and ejaculates does it have an effect on estradiol ?
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A miniscule impact that's temporary ; just like how kids from the "nofap" community think it increases testosterone. The effect is tiny and very temporary.

The hormones released after ejaculation would be dopamine, serotonin, prolactin (tiny amount), oxytocin, cortisol, and a few others. None of which have been shown to have any long-term impact in the gym.
 
halfwit said:
A miniscule impact that's temporary ; just like how kids from the "nofap" community think it increases testosterone. The effect is tiny and very temporary.

The hormones released after ejaculation would be dopamine, serotonin, prolactin (tiny amount), oxytocin, cortisol, and a few others. None of which have been shown to have any long-term impact in the gym.
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Thank god. I would have NO gains. "too much ejaculation brah! Losing mah gains!"
 
halfwit said:
A miniscule impact that's temporary ; just like how kids from the "nofap" community think it increases testosterone. The effect is tiny and very temporary.

The hormones released after ejaculation would be dopamine, serotonin, prolactin (tiny amount), oxytocin, cortisol, and a few others. None of which have been shown to have any long-term impact in the gym.
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Here's what happens to me. I start having sex with a woman. My whole body swells up & gets really strong. I can hump for hours without fatigue. Then when I cum boom just like a porno the stuff is sprayin everywhere all over her and the bed. Then for like 3 to five minutes I feel great can even sometimes fall asleep. But if I don't fall asleep and even if I do its not gunna be a good all night sleep something changes inside of me. I'm weaker, uncomfortable, can't sleep, impatient and by the next day look flat and feel like crap. I have never been a fapper and usually lure my women in with good fucks. But after I sucker them in I taper off the fucks and start trying to get away with just eating it out. It doesn't really work because eating it out doesn't live up to a good hard pounding. So ya I'm 45 and all but I have been like this since I turned around 30. Mind you the my test levels when I had them tested two years ago were above average and didn't qualify for trt. The longer I don't cum the bigger and stronger I become. Its crazy right now I haven't came for well over a month and before that I only came once. I'm in the gym off cycle lifting heavy weights with no problem and im huge. If I had been cumming twice a week that whole time I guarantee I would not be this big and strong. I wish I knew the problem because I love to fuck but honestly love lifting more than fucking.
 
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mike43 said:
Here's what happens to me. I start having sex with a woman. My whole body swells up & gets really strong. I can hump for hours without fatigue. Then when I cum boom just like a porno the stuff is sprayin everywhere all over her and the bed. Then for like 3 to five minutes I feel great can even sometimes fall asleep. But if I don't fall asleep and even if I do its not gunna be a good all night sleep something changes inside of me. I'm weaker, uncomfortable, can't sleep, impatient and by the next day look flat and feel like crap. I have never been a fapper and usually lure my women in with good fucks. But after I sucker them in I taper off the fucks and start trying to get away with just eating it out. It doesn't really work because eating it out doesn't live up to a good hard pounding. So ya I'm 45 and all but I have been like this since I turned around 30. Mind you the my test levels when I had them tested two years ago were above average and didn't qualify for trt. The longer I don't cum the bigger and stronger I become. Its crazy right now I haven't came for well over a month and before that I only came once. I'm in the gym off cycle lifting heavy weights with no problem and im huge. If I had been cumming twice a week that whole time I guarantee I would not be this big and strong. I wish I knew the problem because I love to fuck but honestly love lifting more than fucking.
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I spend around 16-18 hours a week in the gym right now, and was spending around 36 hours for the last year and a half. I love the gym as it's my sanctuary, my therapist, and I have made some good friends there on top of completely changing my life for the better.

But...

I cannot say that I would prefer to be in the gym over being balls deep. Fortunately, I don't have to choose and can have both - just not at the same time as I don't live in a porn movie.

The mind is very powerful, and you would be seriously amazed at how it can heal injuries, or make you ill. I have a feeling that you associate sexual prowess with masculinity, but once you spend your seed, you lose it temporarily. This is not uncommon at all, and in fact is prevalent in some tribes found in South/Central America.

The true question is whether or not you're happy with this. If you're fine and enjoy having this belief (which may manifest itself physically if you really DO believe it), then I say more power to you.

However, if you're not happy with this, I'd probably speak to a trained professional such as a psychologist. This could stem from a zillion different places, and I know I'm certainly not qualified to delve into them.

Either way, I'm now thinking of a video I saw with Brandi Aniston in a gym. D'oh! :horny:
 
mike43 said:
Here's what happens to me. I start having sex with a woman. My whole body swells up & gets really strong. I can hump for hours without fatigue. Then when I cum boom just like a porno the stuff is sprayin everywhere all over her and the bed. Then for like 3 to five minutes I feel great can even sometimes fall asleep. But if I don't fall asleep and even if I do its not gunna be a good all night sleep something changes inside of me. I'm weaker, uncomfortable, can't sleep, impatient and by the next day look flat and feel like crap. I have never been a fapper and usually lure my women in with good fucks. But after I sucker them in I taper off the fucks and start trying to get away with just eating it out. It doesn't really work because eating it out doesn't live up to a good hard pounding. So ya I'm 45 and all but I have been like this since I turned around 30. Mind you the my test levels when I had them tested two years ago were above average and didn't qualify for trt. The longer I don't cum the bigger and stronger I become. Its crazy right now I haven't came for well over a month and before that I only came once. I'm in the gym off cycle lifting heavy weights with no problem and im huge. If I had been cumming twice a week that whole time I guarantee I would not be this big and strong. I wish I knew the problem because I love to fuck but honestly love lifting more than fucking.
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Sounds like you don't have the physical conditioning and endurance (cardio) to be able to have sex for 4+ hours in a week. It is depleting/exhausting you. You should try lowering your body fat % and doing cardio to strengthen your heart.
 
Megatron28 said:
Sounds like you don't have the physical conditioning and endurance (cardio) to be able to have sex for 4+ hours in a week. It is depleting/exhausting you. You should try lowering your body fat % and doing cardio to strengthen your heart.
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It really isn't that either because I've tried the quikies too and that fucks me up too. I have actually had sex with a girl for over an hour before and actually stopped without cumming. Big time blue balls as a result of it but still stayed strong and slept like a baby. Heres another thing I woke up the next dau after sleeping in till 10 then hit the gym and was no less than a he man.I don't want to loose any body fat either. Like lou said in pumping iron "I don't wanna look small" hilarious when he said that but ya I'm off cycle most of the time so I will loose size.
 
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halfwit said:
Prolactin doesn't cause gyno, it just turns existing gyno into milk faucets. I'd get a doctor to look at your chest once you're free and clear from PCT. Usually a SERM, ESPECIALLY raloxifene will be sufficient - so I'd get a pro to take a gander at it. Just blame it on puberty, as you don't want to get into the whole hormone issue.
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Appreciate the help..once i am finished with pct i will def go get that checked out
 
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