Mid-cycle labs- Can I continue past 12 weeks?

[4150]

I'm on a 12 week cycle of Test Cyp. 500mg/wk and Deca 300mg/wk and .5 Anastrozole EOD. Labs look good and I would like to know if I could
continue on past the 12 weeks. I am a lifer on TRT so not chance of having to PCT.

I got the Hormone Panel for Females and I'll only post the items that were high or low.

Red blood cell count- 6.01 range 4.20-5.80 million/UL High

Hematocrit- 53.6 range 38.5-50% High I can't give blood again until the first of May

MCHC- 31.5 range 32.0-36.0 g/dl Low

Absolute Monocytes- 1293 range 200-950 cells/ul High

FSH and LH- Low I can post numbers if needed

Estradiol- 36 range < or = 39 pg/ml Normal but I will try to bring it down by increasing AI from .5 EOD to .75 EOD

Testosterone- 2534 range 250-1100 ng/dl High This was taken 4 days after injection on a Friday. I had missed my Thursday injection
due to being sick. It proves my Test is legit so I would assume my Deca is as well.

Blood Pressure- 154/85 This was running a little higher at first. I had to go to the doctor for the flu last week and he gave me meds to
take it down. It has helped already.

Hemoglobin- 16.9 at the top of the normal range

I would like to extend my cycle to get max gains. I didn't get much eating or training done last week due to the flu running through my house.
To tell you the truth There was a few days at the start where my BP was high and I didn't feel that well either. I'm back and feel well.
What do you think?

 

[Roush]

you get more gains running Deca longer anyhow , 14 weeks or so . BUT , your obviously having some 'blood thickening' issues, and deca is the main culprit here . personally , I'd drop the deca. 2 more weeks of gains isn't worth the negative health consequences your putting on your cardiovascular system and heart.

tone it down, donate blood again next time you get a chance, and work on being and feeling healthy . you'll make better and more long term gains that way anyways .

 

[4150]

So you"re saying drop the Deca at 12 weeks and just continue on with 500mg/wk of test ?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Stick to your plan of 12 weeks and recover.

 

[4150]

I searched a lot about hematocrit levels and can't find much about when is it so dangerous that I would need to stop my cycle. any info on that?
I also take fish oil twice a day and baby aspirin daily per doctor.
Dr knows what's up and is cool bUT won't get too involved in it.

 

[Roush]

I searched a lot about hematocrit levels and can't find much about when is it so dangerous that I would need to stop my cycle. any info on that?
I also take fish oil twice a day and baby aspirin daily per doctor.
Dr knows what's up and is cool bUT won't get too involved in it.

Hematocrit- 53.6 range 38.5-50%

that's high enough to be at risk of a stroke and is probably a factor in your hypertension problem as well. did your doctor mention anything about a prescribing a therapeautic phlebotomy ?

 

[carverelli]

5 lbs isn't worth damaging your health any further -the hct is the main issue here. Another month and it could be very problematic. At that point just donating blood wouldn't bring you're hct back into range

 

[4150]

I'm referring to my trt Dr and she does them at her office which is 6 hrs away. During my first cycle, which was test only, my hematocrit was about the same and when I talked to her she told me to take fish oil twice daily to make my blood move easier and to keep taking baby aspirin. she was not overly concerned about it.
Also, I got my blood drawn for labs last friday, which was at the end of the "killer flu" week. I didn't eat or drink much. Could that affect numbers any?
I'm trying to avoid calling her until shortly after this cycle because she wants blood work and I can't turn in a 2000 - 3000 test level.

 

[Roush]

she sounds like a "band aid" doctor . put band aids on stuff rather then deal with the real problem at hand. Omega 3 and aspirin is not a real solution . whats your age ?

 

[Roush]

also just so you know, staying on TRT can cause your levels to continue to rise . Stopping test all together will lower your levels but it will take your body time.

its not a fun experience .. I had similar issues to you . I stopped my cycle, and got off of TRT all together for 6 months, took no pct, and went on a no carb diet,, all to get my health issues cleared . my hypertension and other related problems went away. sometimes you just gotta do what you got to do , and be healthy enough to see another day.

 

[luckypaul]

Test looks ok for day 4.

 

[luckypaul]

I searched a lot about hematocrit levels and can't find much about when is it so dangerous that I would need to stop my cycle. any info on that?
I also take fish oil twice a day and baby aspirin daily per doctor.
Dr knows what's up and is cool bUT won't get too involved in it.

I have polycythemia. The health risk is increased chance of a stroke.MI and blood clots. 53.6 hct is no good. When mine gets above 48, i have a prescribed drop 500ml.

 

[4150]

she sounds like a "band aid" doctor . put band aids on stuff rather then deal with the real problem at hand. Omega 3 and aspirin is not a real solution . whats your age ?

She is not necessarily a "band aid" dr. She got my therapy dialed in and seems to know her shit. She has a lot of patients in that fitness community.
I've seen her husband and it's obvious what he does so I know she is sympathetic to my plight. In fact, i turned in blood work that showed my test at 3744. She sent it back and told me to wwait until my levels were lower before she would give a refill. But we don't have a relationship where I cant blatantly ask her about steroid cycles. I'm no snitch or cop but she probly ain't going there with me.
that's why I come here. She told me to lower my test dosage or take the fish oil.
That's pretty much my options here. Do you guys think it's safe to continue up to the 12th week?
Also, all my labs and health are great when just on trt dosage. it seems cycling fucks them up a bit. Especially BP.

 

[carverelli]

So why did you ask if you should continue your cycle if you'd already made up your mind...food for thought grasshopper

 

[4150]

So why did you ask if you should continue your cycle if you'd already made up your mind...food for thought grasshopper

What sentence implies that I made up my mind? My last post specifically asks if it's safe to continue up to the 12th week?

Go back and read the whole thread. Confucious say : read, comprehend, think, comment

The only thing I made my mind up on is continuing TRT after cycle.

 

[carverelli]

What sentence implies that I made up my mind? My last post specifically asks if it's safe to continue up to the 12th week?

Go back and read the whole thread. Confucious say : read, comprehend, think, comment

The only thing I made my mind up on is continuing TRT after cycle.

All your subsequent posts after the op were contrary to ending your current cycle stating several reasons why you thought It was ok to continue.

Those statement led me to believe you were planning on continuing

 

[4150]

All your subsequent posts after the op were contrary to ending your current cycle stating several reasons why you thought It was ok to continue.

Those statement led me to believe you were planning on continuing

My second post was asking for clarification from Roush , which he didn't touch on in his reply.
Then some helpful advice and info from you, Lucky Paul , and Dreaded Pirate. And, what I thought was an exchange of information between myself and Roush. Not an argument or an admission of guilt, in which my question changed from:
Should I continue after 12 weeks?
to
Should I even continue at all?

Then a smart ass comment from you.

I apologise if this was a long winded thread but I was still waiting for an answer to one of those questions.

And since no one here is a doctor, I like to hear from several people. I'll still make up my own mind but I'll heavily consider the advice of those here who most likely have more experience than I.

 

[carverelli]

My second post was asking for clarification from Roush , which he didn't touch on in his reply.
Then some helpful advice and info from you, Lucky Paul , and Dreaded Pirate. And, what I thought was an exchange of information between myself and Roush. Not an argument or an admission of guilt, in which my question changed from: actually there is a doctor on site I'm not sure he'll answer your question but it's worth a shot as whether to continue his adoptable know are you gonna die probably not
Should I continue after 12 weeks?
to
Should I even continue at all?

Then a smart ass comment from you.

I apologise if this was a long winded thread but I was still waiting for an answer to one of those questions.

And since no one here is a doctor, I like to hear from several people. I'll still make up my own mind but I'll heavily consider the advice of those here who most likely have more experience than I.

Actually there is a doctor on site should you continue that's up to you isn't optimal know are you gonna die probably not

 

[carverelli]

My second post was asking for clarification from Roush , which he didn't touch on in his reply.
Then some helpful advice and info from you, Lucky Paul , and Dreaded Pirate. And, what I thought was an exchange of information between myself and Roush. Not an argument or an admission of guilt, in which my question changed from: actually there is a doctor on site I'm not sure he'll answer your question but it's worth a shot as whether to continue his adoptable know are you gonna die probably not
Should I continue after 12 weeks?
to
Should I even continue at all?

Then a smart ass comment from you.

I apologise if this was a long winded thread but I was still waiting for an answer to one of those questions.

And since no one here is a doctor, I like to hear from several people. I'll still make up my own mind but I'll heavily consider the advice of those here who most likely have more experience than I.

Actually there is a doctor on site should you continue that's up to you isn't optimal know are you gonna die probably not

 

[4150]

Actually there is a doctor on site should you continue that's up to you isn't optimal know are you gonna die probably not

Ah ha! Thanks man! That's what I was looking for.

You say it's not optimal but I probly won't die and two others said to continue. I'll live with that.

Even though I didn't start out with my mind made up to continue, of course I WANT to continue. I have a lot of work, time, and money into this cycle and I'm really looking forward to the second half but I wasn't sure if hematocrit was a deal killer.