Mid range T but low T symptoms: what are my options?

[muchstronger]

Hi everyone,

I need to tell my story here as I feel I remain unheard by the medical body as someone "perfectly normal" although I feel bad.

I am a 27 years old male, feeling all the symptoms of low T.
I wake up in the morning very tired although I sleep a good 9 hours without interumption. I have a lot of troubles putting on muscle although I eat a very clean diet and high in protein. My mind is cloudy, I have troubles focusing and I don't feel energized.
I don't have any sleep apnea problems.
I don't drink coffee anymore, I take fish oil, multivitamins and magnesium at night.

I have been lifting for the past 8 years, doing mostly compound and bodyweight exercises. I also practice Thai boxing.

I went for a blood test and it came back as such: total T=599ng/dL, free T=2,3ng/dL.
Estrogens are in the mid-lower range, so very normal.
On paper it doesn't seem horrible although definitely not in the high range.
But I feel like what people in the 200-300ng range describe.

I understand a feeling won't get any doctor to start me on T.

That's why I want to ask you guys: what options are left?

Thank you

 

[TRTnooby]

Hi everyone,

I need to tell my story here as I feel I remain unheard by the medical body as someone "perfectly normal" although I feel bad.

I am a 27 years old male, feeling all the symptoms of low T.
I wake up in the morning very tired although I sleep a good 9 hours without interumption. I have a lot of troubles putting on muscle although I eat a very clean diet and high in protein. My mind is cloudy, I have troubles focusing and I don't feel energized.
I don't have any sleep apnea problems.
I don't drink coffee anymore, I take fish oil, multivitamins and magnesium at night.

I have been lifting for the past 8 years, doing mostly compound and bodyweight exercises. I also practice Thai boxing.

I went for a blood test and it came back as such: total T=599ng/dL, free T=2,3ng/dL.
Estrogens are in the mid-lower range, so very normal.
On paper it doesn't seem horrible although definitely not in the high range.
But I feel like what people in the 200-300ng range describe.

I understand a feeling won't get any doctor to start me on T.

That's why I want to ask you guys: what options are left?

Thank you

Those are great numbers. Your symptoms are probably not testosterone related.

Everyone wakes up tired, thats why Coffee/Tea are the most widely used PEDs in the world. Why did you quit?

Could also be stress/anxiety/depression/dysthymia. Counseling has done wonders for me in that area. I struggled with it for most of my adult life. Weekly counseling sessions have completely removed those feelings from my life without the use of antidepressants. Its a lot of work and its not a quick fix but its very valuable if you are willing to face your issues honestly and fearlessly.

 

[Megatron28]

Have you had a sleep study done? How do your thyroid numbers look? Vitamin D levels? Iron levels?

Have you talked to your doctor about getting a workup?

 

[muchstronger]

I did a very broad and general bloodwork to know everything my blood had to say.
All came perfectly in range, including thyroid, liver and kidney function. It's almost frghtening to

 

[muchstronger]

see how good my results are compared compared to how f***** up I feel.

It's been a long time I want to do a sleep study, to rule anything out on this side.
But from what I have read up until now, there are not really solutions to sleep problems like for example sleep apnea. Or are they?

What kind of other sleep "illness" could they find out?

Thanks for your very appreciated help Megatron

 

[Megatron28]

There are absolutely treatments to sleep apnea. CPAP. Dental appliances. Tonsil surgery.

Other sleep issues included hypopnea, restless leg syndrome and others.

Post up your most recent blood work results. Let's see how things look.

 

[muchstronger]

There are absolutely treatments to sleep apnea. CPAP. Dental appliances. Tonsil surgery.

Other sleep issues included hypopnea, restless leg syndrome and others.

Post up your most recent blood work results. Let's see how things look.

Thanks a lot for taking the time
Here are my results:

DHEA 4000ng/ml (800-5600)
E2<20pg/ml (<56)
FSH 4,6mIU/ml (0,7-11,1)
LH 3,2 mIU/ml (0,8-7,6)
Prolactin 6,4 ng/ml (2,5-17)
TT 599ng/dl
Free T 2,36ng/dl (0,45-4,2)
Cortisol 12microg/ml (2,9-17,3)

All my other general values (hematocrit, white cells, liver function, renal function etc...) are perfectly normal.

 

[Megatron28]

How does your thyroid, iron and vitamin D look?