Military sent me letter!!!!

[Alpin]

Bros, Looks like they finally found me...lol
I was talking to my granddad and he told me that the Military sent me a letter 2 days ago(Europe)
I am a dual citizen by birth. I was going back and forth for 5 years and without incident. lol
What do I do now? lol
I need to use my CPAP machine nightly and I'm 33 not 18 like the regular troops.
People told me if they see my size they will put me into special forces, commando unit.
Jumping out of airplanes(parachute) at 6000 metres, sleeping outside in the forests, e.t.c. doesn't really appeal to me.
I don't need this b.s. and those days of high T are behind me.
At my current 265 ng/dl TT levels.... I'm not thrilled with this news.
What can I take while there to keep some Natty T elevated...
I will have access to pharmacies and they are o.k. sometimes with ancillaries like Nolva, clomid, proviron.

 

[Alpin]

Just to let you know...
Greece has mandatory military service. I don't live there as a permanent resident. I am Canadian.
Not a draft dodger either....I just got the letter a couple days ago, but I was living there a while without hassle a few months at a time.
You can't buy it out either till after 35 y.o. and it costs 8500 euros.

 

[Mad- scientist]

When my natural testosterone levels where low all the over the counter supplements I took caused slight gyno or a really large decrease in libido. I think they did help raise my test levels though. I liked T bomb 2 the best out of everything I took. As for pharmaceutical I can only think of clomid and nolvadex or something in the pct medication department. Best of luck man.

 

[KingBF]

what exactly does Greece do anyhow?

 

[unkazra1]

Wow man! That's exactly the news that brings me back to old times (which I didn't want to hear). Listen, whatever is legal for service members to do while activated, do only that. DO NOT MESS WITH ANYTHING ELSE. Roll with the punches..you will come out on top. Do not do anything illegal while in bro. Not worth it. The only advice I can give you, is that a BCD or a DHDischarge..is a hell of alot worse than than the feeling of low T or gyno. Not worth it.

 

[Alpin]

Wow man! That's exactly the news that brings me back to old times (which I didn't want to hear). Listen, whatever is legal for service members to do while activated, do only that. DO NOT MESS WITH ANYTHING ELSE. Roll with the punches..you will come out on top. Do not do anything illegal while in bro. Not worth it. The only advice I can give you, is that a BCD or a DHDischarge..is a hell of alot worse than than the feeling of low T or gyno. Not worth it.

I know, I am definitely staying above board and legal. I was over there a couple years back and T script was running low...I stayed longer than planned while in Greece. I did take extra T vials with me from Canada but it was cutting really close to finishing on me.
I went into a hospital and showed the doc my script, gave him the name of my doc in Canada. You know what he did?
He looked at me, looked at my body, and quickly said "you obviously workout, No way". He went on to say: "this is doping" e.t.c.
I told him I will get symptoms of low T....he said: "what are these symptoms"?? I told him feeling down, low energy e.t.c.
He said Testosterone is not given for that and you must have another issues why this doc gives it you. He basically ignored me and I tell him: "so I wait till I see my family doc in Canada": he says: "probably"...
I walked out.....
scum bags, wish I could file a charge on him at the local D.A. for malpractice but the country in general is so corrupt nothing would happen, only thing would be me getting embarrassed.

 

[Alpin]

what exactly does Greece do anyhow?

What do you mean?

 

[Alpin]

When my natural testosterone levels where low all the over the counter supplements I took caused slight gyno or a really large decrease in libido. I think they did help raise my test levels though. I liked T bomb 2 the best out of everything I took. As for pharmaceutical I can only think of clomid and nolvadex or something in the pct medication department. Best of luck man.

I also felt this too.

 

[ryan640]

No ofence but why would they want an older guy like you to serve not that guys in their 30s are old but usually if the military needs guys they take the young 18 year olds

 

[Alpin]

No ofence but why would they want an older guy like you to serve not that guys in their 30s are old but usually if the military needs guys they take the young 18 year olds

Military is mandatory from 19-45...
some form out of a nine month term has to be served. Usually the younger guys get pulled into special forces...
I might be o.k. there.

 

[a7x411]

do your time. Don't be a war dodger
5 yrs marine corps

 

[unkazra1]

I know, I am definitely staying above board and legal. I was over there a couple years back and T script was running low...I stayed longer than planned while in Greece. I did take extra T vials with me from Canada but it was cutting really close to finishing on me.
I went into a hospital and showed the doc my script, gave him the name of my doc in Canada. You know what he did?
He looked at me, looked at my body, and quickly said "you obviously workout, No way". He went on to say: "this is doping" e.t.c.
I told him I will get symptoms of low T....he said: "what are these symptoms"?? I told him feeling down, low energy e.t.c.
He said Testosterone is not given for that and you must have another issues why this doc gives it you. He basically ignored me and I tell him: "so I wait till I see my family doc in Canada": he says: "probably"...
I walked out.....
scum bags, wish I could file a charge on him at the local D.A. for malpractice but the country in general is so corrupt nothing would happen, only thing would be me getting embarrassed.

Yeah bro.. Life throws curve balls whether you can hit'em or not. Again, can't stress enough...it's not worth it. I wish you the best...and a safe return bro. Your profile says "pro bodybuilder". So you have a good foundation to build on. AAS and supps are not a necessity for someone of your caliber, but more "window dressing". I say put your game face on and go natural the best you can. When you come back and your commitments are up, then get back into the groove.

 

[KingBF]

really 9 months...just stay clean for a bit. Is Greece currently involved in any wars? Cause I've never seen them in Afghanistan, Iraq, Africa or Asia. how hard could it really be

 

[imdennis]

i say draft dodge it, think of it as taking one for the team, let someone young guy take your place but then again i have no military experience, just seems like the logical thing to do imo since ur not really up for it

 

[unkazra1]

really 9 months...just stay clean for a bit. Is Greece currently involved in any wars? Cause I've never seen them in Afghanistan, Iraq, Africa or Asia. how hard could it really be

Agreed..9 months. Stay clean. In ref to Greece though.. Afhgan, Iraq, Africa, and Asia = Countries US invaded. Greece ain't involved in our conquest period, but that don't mean they're not drafting guys. I'm sure they have a "Homeland Security" that needs mature, smart individuals. World is changing bro's. Country's are drafting professionals now a day's, not rookies.

 

[KingBF]

Greece is an original member of the UN. The UN helps and fights in the places. My point was its not a big deal. your not going to WW3. get some training and I'm sure it will be a valuable learning experience. Stay clean

 

[halfwit]

Isn't there some sort of contingency as you live and are a resident of another country? I have absolutely no idea what the laws of Greece are, but I can't see them pulling you out of Canada to serve at your age. I didn't know they had a mandatory service requirement either, interesting!

 

[PrayForMojo]

Can't you get the reduced service of three months since you live abroad most of the time?

 

[Alpin]

Can't you get the reduced service of three months since you live abroad most of the time?

No. I'm considered "Greek Origin".
My dad served for 3 years. It's been reduced to a current 9 months for Greeks with Greek National I.D. cards e.t.c.
If you were solely living abroad with a foreign passport but still considered of Greek origin(No Greek National I.D. card in your possession or Greek Passport) you would do 6 months instead of the 9 months.

 

[Alpin]

Isn't there some sort of contingency as you live and are a resident of another country? I have absolutely no idea what the laws of Greece are, but I can't see them pulling you out of Canada to serve at your age. I didn't know they had a mandatory service requirement either, interesting!

There is!
But, if you have a Greek National I.D. Card or Greek Passport you are considered a regular Greek Citizen. I have a National I.D. card which I got at the Police station 5 years ago. You can't do anything without one in Greece, so I needed to get one back then. Thing is they keep track of that stuff and they will audit you e.t.c.
If you were a foreigner living abroad with a foreign passport and of Greek origin e.t.c. and stay in Greece for an extended period of time(over 6 months) you risk getting drafted or a letter telling you to show up for questioning on your status.