min maxing cylces : 4 vs 8 vs 12 vs 16 weeks. long time users question.

[harveus]

assuming you have the right compounds, diet and work out plan nailed for your goals everytime, and you essentially cycle year around, taking only the time off for your pct, wich usually should be equal to the amount of time you are on :

WHAT do you think will net you the best, most cost efficent ( in both terms of gains, keepabilty of gains during pct, sides both short and long term, and money wise) long term resoults? 4, - 8, - 12, OR 16 weeks cycles?

in short do you think in the long run it is better to do very long cycles but very few of them per year, like in the case of the 16 weeks one whit very long pcts and rest time in between

OR very short ones Like 4 weeks, wich by themselves may seem worthless but in the long run grant you basically half of the year on ( one month on, one off ), without having to do and extreamely long pct to compensate for a very long cycle, or forcing you to go on trt early due to the "relative" milder shut down compared to a very long one?

OR something mid range in between longest and shortest?

 

[Milton]

depends on your stats, what are they?

 

[harveus]

as of today, courrent stats are

26 years old, 192 lbs ( 87 kilos) , 6,0 ( 182 cm ) around 8% bf ( maybe a bit less right now, but still not full 7% )

long term goals ( if posssible before the end of 2017 ) are : increase to over 205 lbs. keep courrent bf or drop to full 7%. than mantain size,strenght and gains made during year, year around, with slight variation in body fat.

 

[Milton]

if you scroll down this page you will see similar threads that may help.

 

[harveus]

of the threads i have found all discuss which is better between long and very long cycles, but nothing between very short or medium and long or very long. i am tempted to try the 4 weeks on ,4 weeks off route ( not a fan of staying off, months at a time ),

but i wanna know if it's actually advisable or even viable, compared to the usual length you normally would do,for my long term goals...

 

[rikardo82]

of the threads i have found all discuss which is better between long and very long cycles, but nothing between very short or medium and long or very long. i am tempted to try the 4 weeks on ,4 weeks off route ( not a fan of staying off, months at a time ),

but i wanna know if it's actually advisable or even viable, compared to the usual length you normally would do,for my long term goals...

I think short ester 6 week cycles are best you dont waste time waiting to kick in and waiting to clear out gear... with short ester cycle I got most my gains in 4 weeks with long ester cycle test e most gains were in 8 weeks 6 week short ester cycle is perfect. Like test prop tren A.

 

[blakey]

If your blasting every year on off on off chances are you're probably going to end up on trt anyways how many times can you expect your hpta test to turn back on ( and be at a decent level)it's not a light switch I'm going to start blasting and cruising my test levels have always been low and since playing with aas there only getting lower after every cycle (something to think about if you want kids someday) doing a pct doesn't mean everything will be fixed or at the same levels as before your cycle
I have a son and before I started aas I took all this into account so now I'm just saying fuck it and I'll be staying on year round
I'm not telling you to do this just saying because you mentioned pct and such in regards to cycle length. I like longer cycles 16 weeks is good but that's a long pct as well

 

[Gainjin260]

as of today, courrent stats are

26 years old, 192 lbs ( 87 kilos) , 6,0 ( 182 cm ) around 8% bf ( maybe a bit less right now, but still not full 7% )

long term goals ( if posssible before the end of 2017 ) are : increase to over 205 lbs. keep courrent bf or drop to full 7%. than mantain size,strenght and gains made during year, year around, with slight variation in body fat.

Post a pic. Let's see what 8% looks like.

 

[juced_porkchop]

i rec 14wks. min 12 max 18 for most imo

 

[harveus]

Post a pic. Let's see what 8% looks like.

i will in about 2 weeks at the end of the cycle. i don't like to post resoults unfinished. definatly will tough.

 

[harveus]

If your blasting every year on off on off chances are you're probably going to end up on trt anyways how many times can you expect your hpta test to turn back on ( and be at a decent level)it's not a light switch I'm going to start blasting and cruising my test levels have always been low and since playing with aas there only getting lower after every cycle (something to think about if you want kids someday) doing a pct doesn't mean everything will be fixed or at the same levels as before your cycle
I have a son and before I started aas I took all this into account so now I'm just saying fuck it and I'll be staying on year round
I'm not telling you to do this just saying because you mentioned pct and such in regards to cycle length. I like longer cycles 16 weeks is good but that's a long pct as well

yeah i like you are conisdering the kids factor actually. it IS a strong point in my decision process regarding all this. that's also why i would try to avoid very long cycles if possible. for that very exact reason


on the other hand, if a cycle is just too short to net any sort of resoults it becomes conuter productive to even do it.

so it's a rather delicate balance i'm tryng to find here.

 

[Milton]

Post a pic. Let's see what 8% looks like.

did this happen?

 

[Milton]

i will in about 2 weeks at the end of the cycle. i don't like to post resoults unfinished. definatly will tough.

those 2 weeks done yet? cant wait to see your status pics.