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[renderseven]

hi all, im planning on doing my second cycle:

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg /ED
week 1-8 Sust 750mg/EW

PCT:
12-15 nolva 60/40/20
12-15 clomid 50mg ed

my last cycle was 9 weeks of sust only at 500mg per week and i gained 7kilos in the end. My diet was messed up but this time it is sorted out. I was wondering if uping the sust dosage would increase my gains, if my diet/training/sleep are ideal.

is 750mg per week ok? or will more test make me bigger?

im 21, been training for 5 years
6'2" and weigh 80 kilos
10-15% bf
my goal is to get to at least 90 kilos

i can also find deca but this will be a hassle because i can only get 50mg/ml stuff and that would be 6ml per week for the deca alone(300mg). Along with the test at 750, it would be 9ML IN TOTAL a week. So should i go for the deca, or up the test?

thanks in advance

 

[InsuranceMan]

I'd up the test. Deca @ 50mg/ml is too much of a hassle. I've done up to 6ML at a time, 3 in each cheek.

 

[renderseven]

how much 750 or 1000 ?

 

[blackbeard]

how much 750 or 1000 ?

you do not need more than 750 at this time..
hell i think you should run 500 again along with the dbol and a better DIET..youll see that ost likely your gains will be better without even increasing your dose..

wait time out..80 kilos thats like what 180-190lbs????
if so you really do not need 750mg..get your diet in check before you even start thsi next cycle which i think should be 500mg of test along with the dbol

 

[StoneColdNTO]

hi all, im planning on doing my second cycle:

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg /ED
week 1-8 Sust 750mg/EW



my last cycle was 9 weeks of sust only at 500mg per week and i gained 7kilos in the end.
My diet was messed up but this time it is sorted out.

There's the answer to your question. ......."simple"

Leave the Sust dosage the same (500mg), and you'll be real surprised what a good diet does.


Btw.....run it for 10 weeks !!

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Oh yeah.......................Welcome to the board !!

 

[blackbeard]

There's the answer to your question. ......."simple"

Leave the Sust dosage the same and you'll be real surprised what a good diet does.


Btw.....run it for 10 weeks !!

beat ya

 

[StoneColdNTO]

beat ya

lol......yes..., but you forgot your manners, and I beat you to the welcome...

 

[blackbeard]

lol......yes..., but you forgot your manners, and I beat you to the welcome...

yep lol

welcome to the board render

 

[JollyJuicer]

yeah I'd agree to go with 500/wk and extend it longer than 8/wks

 

[Slayer]

I have only done three cycles myself, but I am not going to increase my doses until I have to, that is until I no longer get gains with the dose I am doing.

 

[jcp2]

If it were me, i would add either dbol at 20-25mg for 6 weeks with 500mg of sust. Or 300mg of deca. I would probably opt for the deca, even at 50mg. 6cc's a week is not a lot. Especially six of painless hg gear. Just ass 2 in with each cc of sust, and take two more one other time during the week.

 

[DADAWG]

welcome to the board stonecoldntos advice is solid .

 

[beaf]

500 mg is more then enough, it is only you second cycle and your only 21. You should be training naturell.

 

[Adrenaline]

StoneCold is right, you dont need more than 500mg/week for your 2nd cycle.. diet and train right and you will make great gains. Too many people start off using too much gear.

 

[renderseven]

i feel welcomed thanks for the replies
ill sort out my diet and try it at 500.

another reason why i wanted to run it at 750 is that i would rather do a shorter cycle, and i higher dosage would make test blood levels peak quicker if im not mistaken.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

i feel welcomed thanks for the replies
ill sort out my diet and try it at 500.

another reason why i wanted to run it at 750 is that i would rather do a shorter cycle, and i higher dosage would make test blood levels peak quicker if im not mistaken.

Slow and steady wins the race.

 

[GymLift]

Slow and steady wins the race.

I agree. People frequently try and make cycles too short or too long. IMHO, better off doing 400mg of testosterone (cypionate, enanthate) every week for 10-12 weeks than 500mg of testosterone for 8 weeks. But, that's just me and I don't have any first hand experience.