My 2nd cycle.

[philippeb]

Hey guyes.
SO, back in 2011 i did a test e 250 mg Evry week for 10 weeks and gained 10 kg (22 lb)

Was very satisfied, might have dropped 1 kg/2lb later because of water and gained like 1kg/2lb fat, but who cares, i got results.

Anyways, i was about to put my new cycle together (This time a "real" one) since im going to my first competetion in december this year.
Im gonna compete in the -80KG class for teenagers.

So, heres how my cycle is gonna be.
Im gonna do 400 mg test e Evry week for 12 weeks.
Alltogether with 400 mg deca for 12 weeks.
After that im gonna lay low for 1 week.
Then do 250 mg EQ evry week, for 10 weeks to cut some fat off.

And at last i will do the pct.

So alltogether its gonna be like this

Test e 400 mg ew 1-12
nandro deca 400 mg ew 1-12
Break from roids 12-13
equipoise 250 mg 13-23

Pct:
Nolva 40 mg ed 1-10 20 mg ed 11-40
Hcg 2500 UI E5D 1-20


My stats are following:
Age 22.
Weight 190 LB (87 kg) **
Fat: 17%
Experience: 4 years
Cycles done: 1
Height: 175 cm (5,7 ft)

That should be all.

** my aim is to first go from 87 to 95 kg with lean diet, then when i jump on the EQ i wanna cut fat off till im around 85, so i can prepare.

 

[hamidgs]

something important missing in your cycle
''TEST'' week 12 -22

 

[aussieaussie]

I don't know how you got 10kg in gains from 250mg/ weeks and 400mg sounds like pretty low dosage for a second cycle should be at least 500 mg per week and IMO I wouldn't go straight to the eq why not run a prop and eq cycle for 12 weeks
Hcg should be run in a 12 week cycle from week 1-13 then nolva started at week 15 40mg/ day for 2 weeks then 20mg/ day for 2 weeks

 

[philippeb]

why is that ?
I dont wanna use test as my base since my receptors might be pretty bashed after 12 weeks ?

I need an argument for your post
Evryone can say "Do 100000 mg tren a" and shit i need to know why

 

[aussieaussie]

why is that ?
I dont wanna use test as my base since my receptors might be pretty bashed after 12 weeks ?

I need an argument for your post
Evryone can say "Do 100000 mg tren a" and shit i need to know why

Test is the base of every good cycle won't cause you any probs at 500mg for 12 weeks pretty common cycle length / strength

 

[mdella89]

this is your second cycle, and you want to run it for 23 weeks with one week of no gear.

this cycle is retarded, throw it in the bin and start again. do some more research

 

[aussieaussie]

this is your second cycle, and you want to run it for 23 weeks with one week of no gear.

this cycle is retarded, throw it in the bin and start again. do some more research

My thoughts exactly bluntly put

 

[mdella89]

My thoughts exactly bluntly put

They need to be told its fuckin stupid from the get go or they wont learn. obviously doesnt know anything since his first cycle was probably only double a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose and if he researched anything, 500 test is a good start for a first cycle.

Scrap this garbage, prop or eth for 12 weeks, 4 week pct. then diet your way down. but get bloods done to make sure your levels are correct before dieting or ur gonna loose everything

 

[philippeb]

My thoughts exactly bluntly put

Only things here thats retarded are your stupid arguements.

tell me why its wrong and do it so it can be read as contructive criticism or shut the fuck up.

Dont need your retarded trolls

 

[OX]

Only things here thats retarded are your stupid arguements.

tell me why its wrong and do it so it can be read as contructive criticism or shut the fuck up.

Dont need your retarded trolls

Bro you wouldn't get flamed if your cycle wasn't retarded. First off you don't take a break from injecting in the middle of a cycle. The goal is to keep your hormones stable. Taking a break will create a massive drop and peak in your cycle which will show itself in sides. Also you cant stop test halfway into your cycle.....well actually you can, if you want to lose all your gains, enjoy a flacid Dick and no pussy, and turn into a diva because of depression. Its up to you but the guys above are 100% correct. You need to listen now and do some more research.

 

[FutureMrO3248]

These guys are right. Maybe run like this
Test 1-15 500mg wk
Deca 1-13 400mg wk
caber .5 mg e3d
aromasin 12.5mg ed 1-17 or adex .5mg ed 1-15
pct nolva 40-40-20-20 clomid 50-50-50-50

ditch the eq your running it at not nearly enough to be effective and not long enough and with out test, all bad idea. if you wanna lean out its gonna be based on diet. maybe throw some Anavar (var) in there too. wks 1-8 or 7-15 atleast 60mg a day.

 

[aussieaussie]

for a second cycle imo 500mg test weekly is fine provided diet and training is in checkim not sure what country your from but in aus there are alot of young guy like 14-20 that are getting on the gear with no experience or knowledge behind them and doing stupid amounts / cycles trust me getting flamed on these sites are the best thing for you I to was going to head into my first cycle with little knowledge about what i was doing but after being flamed on sites like this I did 6 months worth of research before starting and I am greatful for that otherwise i would have ended up shut down for good there is more than enough information on the web to learn what is the best cycle to do for what you are trying to acheive and how to do it without completely fucking yourself up I have mates that didnt research and cycled for 12 months straight at 1250mg/ week and are now on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of their live because of not researching.