My 5th cycle... want to get HCG/Post cycle therapy (pct) correct...

[neptunoprofundo]

My 5th cycle... want to get HCG/PCT correct...

Goal: Gain lean muscle mass and endurance, I am a Triathlete...

Starting stats; 6' 3", 170 lbs, very little body fat, training for 25 years, ride 35 miles in 2 hour & weight train 1 1/2 hrs, 5 days/wk.

Current stats; 183 (13 lbs gain), ride 35 miles in 1 hr 45 min. (cut time by 15 min.)beating my fastest recorded time of 10 years ago...

Hello, I am a 50 year old male that is starting my 6th week today, of an 11 week cycle of the following stack;

Sustenon, 500mg/wk
Boldenone undec, 500/wk
Proviron 50mg/day

In the 10th week of this cycle, I plan on starting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu/day, observing for rebound/drop of testes, if so, then reducing to 250iu/day for a total of 3 weeks.

If *augmented signs of estrogen present at any time, I will begin 20mg Nolvadex/day.

Pct starts 3 weeks after last injection of Nolva 20mg and possible Clomid 50mg for 3-4 weeks.

My question is this; *Besides oily skin, errect nipples (definatly not itchy and not much more sensitive) and a lack of swing of my ball sack, I don't seem to be exibiting much estrogen sides...

Does the above plan of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use and Serms look acceptable?

I have been using Proviron at 50mg/day (reduced to 37.5mg/day last week due to perma-wood) with mild Aromatase inhibitor (AI) intentions, etc.

And I also remember reading somewhere, that it is best to stop HGC usage 5-6 days before post cycle therapy (pct), is this true in your experience? And if so, then to use Nolvadex concurent with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would defeat this... What do you think?

Thank you for your time...

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Moved to the appropriate forum.......

 

[neptunoprofundo]

me

See: On cycle Proviron as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), +SERM/HCG & PCT advice...

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yes you want to stop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at least 4 days before PCT.

i would save the NOLVA for PCT and get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to use if estro gives you any issues-taking nolva on cycle for estro means you are asking for a rebound.

if your only going to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at week 10-and not all the way through-you mine as well wait til a week after your last shot of sustanon-then run 500ius a day for ten days then wait 4 days and start post cycle therapy (pct). IMO

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you should run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) all the way through though.

 

[neptunoprofundo]

See: On cycle Proviron as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), +SERM/HCG & PCT advice…

Just a follow up note: I discontinued Proviron on 10/31 because I was bordering on high blood pressure and tappered in arimidex at .5mg/day to finish my weeks 8-11 1 gram Sus/Eq stack...

For what it's worth, I had experienced no estrogenic sides while using the Proviron as an AI...

However, the last 3 weeks I added in Stanozolol in the form of Stanabol-Tek* from an UGL in Mexico at 30-60mg/day at the same time starting HCG Sub Q at 500iu/day for 10 days, reducing to 250iu/day for 5 days and upping to 750iu/day for 3 days, then 750iu/EOD for ~1 week & yesterday 1,500iu and noticed 1/4" round ball under both nipples ~1 1/2 weeks ago, upping arimidex to .75mg and then 1mg... I am tappering off the Arimidex and starting PCT below on 12/13:

Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 100mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

So, the mild estrogenic sides were probubly from the HCG, but I'm still on .5mg Arimidex tappering to .25mg in the next week before post cycle therapy (pct), so I think I'm o.k. 'til then...

So far, I have gained 13 kilos of lean muscle mass and will report how much I keep in 1 month or so...

How does the PCT look?

 

[Mcdunn]

200mg might be too high... i have heard of the 100 the first day then run it 50/50/50/50 and nolva id run straight at 20.20.20.20

 

[Rogue Chemist]

Week-----Nolvadex----- HCG--------Aromasin----- Vitamin E
1 --------20mgs/day----500iu/day---20mgs/day---- 1,000iu/day
2 --------20mgs/day----500iu/day---20mgs/day---- 1,000iu/day
3 --------20mgs/day----500iu/day---20mgs/day---- 1,000iu/day
4 --------20mgs/day----------------20mgs/day
5 --------20mgs/day
6 --------20mgs/day

I got this from isteroid

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Week-----Nolvadex----- HCG--------Aromasin----- Vitamin E
1 --------20mgs/day----500iu/day---20mgs/day---- 1,000iu/day
2 --------20mgs/day----500iu/day---20mgs/day---- 1,000iu/day
3 --------20mgs/day----500iu/day---20mgs/day---- 1,000iu/day
4 --------20mgs/day----------------20mgs/day
5 --------20mgs/day
6 --------20mgs/day

I got this from isteroid

its garbage-if thats a PCT schedule. running HCG during PCT-is not advised anymore.