glubgawd
More Noob Than You
Ok guys. I got real tired of seeing new biogen threads pop up every other day. People keep saying they placed orders and received their gear, but won't run it for another 6 months. Most of the other reviews are by dudes who nobody knows and only have like 10 or fewer posts. Except for Drewbolic who was nice enough to post his thoughts about biogen in a few threads, but a lot of people overlooked it for some reason. Anyways, I decided to place an order myself so that I could contribute something to the discussion and to our board. Hopefully it's helpful to some of our members.
Background, Goals and Stats:
Age: 30ish
Height: 6'7 ish
Weight: I hover between 340-355lbs
bf%: I don't really know. I don't get this checked often since I don't care about it at all. I can definitely promise you that nobody would mistake me for “lean” lol.
I've been cycling for around 8 years now. My job is to push dudes around all day long – I'm a human steam roller. All I care about is strength and, to a lesser extent, maintaining my size. I have absolutely no interest in getting any bigger.
Diet:
I try to get in at least 6,000 – 8,000 calories each day. It varies a ton depending on a lot of different factors like - how much running in practice that day, how much play time that week, did we have an extra practice session, did my wife drag me shopping with her etc.
The Experiment:
It wouldn't be a good experiment if I just started taking the biogen stuff right from the start of my cycle. Of course I'd see results unless it was totally bunk. So, I've been running 125mg ED of my homebrew Tren Ace. I ran that straight for 3 weeks to let it build up in my body. I ran it until the last day of the third week. On the next day (day 1 of week 4) I switched it out for the Biogen Tren Ace. On day 1 of week 5 I started a new bottle of Tren Ace (vial 2) and on day 1 of week 6 I switched to another new vial (vial 3). I have vials for a few more weeks.
Review / Results:
First off, their shipping is lightning fast. I honestly didn't think it was possible to receive an international package that quickly. I grabbed 2 vials from a friend that he had ordered in December. I double checked that it came from the same place. That let me start this experiment out a few weeks early.
Ok, finally the stuff you guys actually care about:
Week 4 --- A few days after I started taking the biogen tren ace, I noticed my strength slipping. Although, it was still above what I would expect from just taking the other compounds I was on. The only side effects I get from Tren are respiratory trouble and elevated temperature. I still had both through out week 4. At the end of week 4, my strength was noticeably lower than it was at the end of week 3.
Week 5 --- Vial 2 was more of the same. I still noticed the side effects, but my strength was still lower than it was while I was on my home brew tren. I also noticed that it was a little painful at times when taking a piss. That's never happened to me before.
Week 6 --- Here's where I'm at now. I'm starting to notice huge strength gains again. I'm almost back to my week 3 levels. I'll probably be back there by the end of the week. The pissing problems have stopped.
Final Thoughts:
They're definitely handing out real steroids in those vials, that's for sure. The problem seems to be mostly with consistency in concentration. At least in the tren ace. Vials 1 and 2 were definitely under dosed. Vial 3, though, seems to be about right. Like I mentioned before, I have a few more vials so I'll probably keep running at least for another few weeks to see if vials 1 and 2 are the norm. I'll be posting more updates in this thread as the weeks go by.
I ordered some deca and test E from them too which I plan to test in the same way. I'll switch over to them in another week or 2 so that I don't mess with my tren study. I'll post my results on that when the time comes.
Also, quick shout out to ezred for giving me this idea (indirecly lol). Our mini discussion in a previous thread is what sparked this epically long novel. Thanks bro.
Background, Goals and Stats:
Age: 30ish
Height: 6'7 ish
Weight: I hover between 340-355lbs
bf%: I don't really know. I don't get this checked often since I don't care about it at all. I can definitely promise you that nobody would mistake me for “lean” lol.
I've been cycling for around 8 years now. My job is to push dudes around all day long – I'm a human steam roller. All I care about is strength and, to a lesser extent, maintaining my size. I have absolutely no interest in getting any bigger.
Diet:
I try to get in at least 6,000 – 8,000 calories each day. It varies a ton depending on a lot of different factors like - how much running in practice that day, how much play time that week, did we have an extra practice session, did my wife drag me shopping with her etc.
The Experiment:
It wouldn't be a good experiment if I just started taking the biogen stuff right from the start of my cycle. Of course I'd see results unless it was totally bunk. So, I've been running 125mg ED of my homebrew Tren Ace. I ran that straight for 3 weeks to let it build up in my body. I ran it until the last day of the third week. On the next day (day 1 of week 4) I switched it out for the Biogen Tren Ace. On day 1 of week 5 I started a new bottle of Tren Ace (vial 2) and on day 1 of week 6 I switched to another new vial (vial 3). I have vials for a few more weeks.
Review / Results:
First off, their shipping is lightning fast. I honestly didn't think it was possible to receive an international package that quickly. I grabbed 2 vials from a friend that he had ordered in December. I double checked that it came from the same place. That let me start this experiment out a few weeks early.
Ok, finally the stuff you guys actually care about:
Week 4 --- A few days after I started taking the biogen tren ace, I noticed my strength slipping. Although, it was still above what I would expect from just taking the other compounds I was on. The only side effects I get from Tren are respiratory trouble and elevated temperature. I still had both through out week 4. At the end of week 4, my strength was noticeably lower than it was at the end of week 3.
Week 5 --- Vial 2 was more of the same. I still noticed the side effects, but my strength was still lower than it was while I was on my home brew tren. I also noticed that it was a little painful at times when taking a piss. That's never happened to me before.
Week 6 --- Here's where I'm at now. I'm starting to notice huge strength gains again. I'm almost back to my week 3 levels. I'll probably be back there by the end of the week. The pissing problems have stopped.
Final Thoughts:
They're definitely handing out real steroids in those vials, that's for sure. The problem seems to be mostly with consistency in concentration. At least in the tren ace. Vials 1 and 2 were definitely under dosed. Vial 3, though, seems to be about right. Like I mentioned before, I have a few more vials so I'll probably keep running at least for another few weeks to see if vials 1 and 2 are the norm. I'll be posting more updates in this thread as the weeks go by.
I ordered some deca and test E from them too which I plan to test in the same way. I'll switch over to them in another week or 2 so that I don't mess with my tren study. I'll post my results on that when the time comes.
Also, quick shout out to ezred for giving me this idea (indirecly lol). Our mini discussion in a previous thread is what sparked this epically long novel. Thanks bro.
