My first cycle

chidoks

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I am planning to do a cycle in the near future... I've been training off and on for about 5 years but i've been serious about it for the last 3 years. I'm 25, 5'10, 203lbs, about 12%bf by calipers... I work out 5 days a week... Right now, i'm just trying to get all my research done before i embark on anything.. I've never done any cycles or prohormones before..
I'm thinking of running a cycle of only test enan. @ 400mg for 10 weeks. I plan to split it up between two injections per week. I was also thinking of running arimidex or liquidex during the cycle to reduce bloat. Now for post cycle therapy (pct), i was thinking of nolva and clomid. Do i need hcg on such a cycle? What dosage of nolva and clomid do i need and for how long do i need to run them? If i need hcg, what dosage do i need? how long after my cycle do i start pct?
Also, i'm not too familiar with injections.. i was reading someone's log and there was something about oils.. what are the oils used for? what size needle and syringe do i need and how do i measure using a syringe? does the test need to be refrigerated? does it need to be heated before usage? aside from the needles, syringes, alcohol swabs, post cycle therapy (pct) and the actual test., do i need anything else? if i cant get my hands on enan., will sust250 be a good substitute for a first cycle?
Sorry for all the questions.. i'm just trying to research as much as possible
 
chidoks said:
I am planning to do a cycle in the near future... I've been training off and on for about 5 years but i've been serious about it for the last 3 years. I'm 25, 5'10, 203lbs, about 12%bf by calipers... I work out 5 days a week... Right now, i'm just trying to get all my research done before i embark on anything.. I've never done any cycles or prohormones before..
I'm thinking of running a cycle of only test enan. @ 400mg for 10 weeks. I plan to split it up between two injections per week. I was also thinking of running arimidex or liquidex during the cycle to reduce bloat. Now for post cycle therapy (pct), i was thinking of nolva and clomid. Do i need hcg on such a cycle? What dosage of nolva and clomid do i need and for how long do i need to run them? If i need hcg, what dosage do i need? how long after my cycle do i start pct?
Also, i'm not too familiar with injections.. i was reading someone's log and there was something about oils.. what are the oils used for? what size needle and syringe do i need and how do i measure using a syringe? does the test need to be refrigerated? does it need to be heated before usage? aside from the needles, syringes, alcohol swabs, post cycle therapy (pct) and the actual test., do i need anything else? if i cant get my hands on enan., will sust250 be a good substitute for a first cycle?
Sorry for all the questions.. i'm just trying to research as much as possible


why 400 ,why not 500mg?
you can you it 500 IU e3d troughout the cycle, altho i dont think you will need it. you can run nolva 10-20mg troughout the cycle, clomid is standard 3 weeks in PCT(dosage on forum). test doesnt need to be refrigirated. you can heat it to go smoother but then again,ive never done it so i dont know.
regarding needles and syringes- you can use 2ml syringes, and needles size 38mm x 0.6mm(dont know US measures).
if you cant get hands on test E,try cypionat instead of sustanon.
 
my first cycle i ran 500mg sust a week. gained 35lbs in 12 weeks. kept about 22 of that. had i ran a tighter post cycle therapy (pct) i'm certian i would have kept more. the best rescource on this board (IMO) is the search feature. if you have any questions, chances are they have been asked before. do a search- then ask all the unanswered questions you may have. you;ll be amazed at the wealth of info..good luck
 
Run 500mg of test for 10-12 weeks.HCG is good but not necessary.For pct,its up to u to use either clomid or nolva.Id use clomid and nolva together.Clomid:
1 300mg
2-11 100mg
12-21 50mg
run 20mg of nolva with clomid just to keep estrogen levels in check.If u plan to use nolva only,run 40mg for the first 2 weeks and the 20mg until ur sex drive is back.If u use test cyp/e start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last shot.If its sustanon then start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after last shot.
 
ok.. everything is in place.. i'm running 500mg of Lucky Labs 250mg/mL enanthate for 10 weeks.. i also have nolva on hand for pct.. Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) needed for this cycle?
 
chidoks said:
Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) needed for this cycle?

Not completely necessary but if you do have access to it, it would help with recovery post-cycle (while running it throughout your cycle). If you don't have access to it though, don't be too concerned.
 
ok...thanks a lot.. i might be able to get access to some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 5 weeks into my cycle.. is it worth running at that point?


Aboot said:
Not completely necessary but if you do have access to it, it would help with recovery post-cycle (while running it throughout your cycle). If you don't have access to it though, don't be too concerned.
 
solcraft said:
my first cycle i ran 500mg Sustanon (sust) a week. gained 35lbs in 12 weeks. kept about 22 of that. had i ran a tighter post cycle therapy (pct) i'm certian i would have kept more. the best rescource on this board (IMO) is the search feature. if you have any questions, chances are they have been asked before. do a search- then ask all the unanswered questions you may have. you;ll be amazed at the wealth of info..good luck

35lbs in 12 weeks....

thats different

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chidoks said:
ok...thanks a lot.. i might be able to get access to some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 5 weeks into my cycle.. is it worth running at that point?


Yes, just stop shooting it about a week before you begin PCT.
 
chidoks said:
guys, what size needles and what size syringes? http://research-ology.com/shop/default.php?cPath=29

I use 25g 1" for delts and thighs. Those are the only two sites i've hit. I would def buy drawing pins though. 25's are slow to draw into. Kind of a PITA

THe difference between 40mg and 500 per week is negligable so i'd run 500mg. I am runnig that much right now and it's no big deal. Also much or your gear is doesd at 250mg/ml.

ALso I wouldn't run letro with that cycle if you want an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) run arimidex.
 
just had my first injection.. injection site is a bit sore.. but so far so good... its a bitch to draw with the 23 1.5 needles though
 
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