My first ever cycle! Exciting stuff!!

[Mistafunnyman]

Im 6'6'' and 210 pounds. Im extremely lean, though very proub of my abs

However in about 7-8 months (too much work on at the moment to commit to a cycle) I will end my battle with the "scrawny" lifestyle and test the waters with Test Enanthate.

Im 24 years old, which I know is pretty young, but I have been doing weights since I was about 17 and over the years have improved diet, workouts, supplementation etc and have made gains, but I want to just give myself that little bit extra.


Soooooo, without further ado and after a fair amount of research and questions I have come to a conclusion for a cycle.


I will do an 18 week cycle that includes the PCT.

Weeks 1-18 I will take 12.5mg of Aromasin

Weeks 1-12 I will take 600mg of test E a week split into 2, 300mg injections on monday and thursday

Week 13 after last test E injection I will do 10 days of the Aromasin alone.

Week 14 (ish) after the ten days of Aromasin alone I will then add a blast cycle of 500 Iu of HCG for another ten days.

Week 15-16 after the last dose of HCG I will have one day of 100mg Clomid and 40 mg of Nolva, followed by 50mg Clomid and 40mg Nolva each day for the rest of weeks 15-16

Week 17-18 i will cut the cut the Nolva down to 20mg but keep Clomid at 50mg.



Diet will be clean and at around 5000 kcals. Meats in the form of chicken and beef mainly but with some pork and fish too.

Lots of protein (around 350-400g) and lots of carbs (around 450-500g)

eat 6-7 times a day and drink about 3-4 litres a day.


train 4 times a week with plenty of rest.


Bring it on!!!

 

[temptation]

Looks good, however you don't NEED to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from a to z, especially if running a single aromatizing compound and no HCG on cycle. Keep it on hand and use it if you have to (bloat goes out of hand, gyno). Maybe you won't need it at all, who knows. A lot of people agree that running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will hinder your gains so keep it aside unless actually needing it. Estro is not always your enemy, especially when going for mass.

I started getting itchy nipples only around mid cycle so clearly in my case it would've been a waste to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning. Indeed, I got the red face and some bloat early on which are both estro signs BUT as long as my BP was fine those were manageable things, for me at least.

 

[Mistafunnyman]

oh ok so just use aromasin on cycle if i need to?

wat about when i do the 10 days HCG?

 

[temptation]

AIs during PCT is a though question. From what I read some will say go for it and other will say absolutely no. It's your choice but anyway I read that HCG 500iu/day shouldn't give you too much sides.

 

[Mistafunnyman]

ah ok

cheers for the heads up, i might reduce HCG down to 300iu instead, reduce the sides.

Iv been told and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during PCT is a good thing. Not heard it is a no no? any particular reason.


The rest of the cycle im happy with and the HCG ill just adjust the dosage

 

[temptation]

No offense but do more research. 300iu ED x 10 won't do shit. You're lowering the HCG so you don't have estro sides while your nuts will recover harder?! What's the whole point in taking HCG then? You should be more concerned about the test sides, not for the ones given by 500iu ED of HCG.

 

[Mistafunnyman]

well im not going to change the test dosage....its popularly used dose.

Well in the end i think ill stick to the cycle iv got, maybe put aromasin on the side rather than use throughout, and just see wat happens

 

[temptation]

Wtf did I say change the test dosage?! Yes, keep the cycle as planned and the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand.

 

[Hockeyplaya18]

Nice Cycle plan, Deja Vu!!! haha.

For the HCG Blast phase of 10 days should look more like this bra!

DAY 1- 1000iu's

DAY 2- Nothing

DAY 3- 1000iu's

DAY 4-nothing

DAY 5- 1000iu's

DAY 6- nothing

DAY 7- 1000iu's

DAY 8- nothing

DAY 9- 1000iu's

DAY 10- nothing

DAY 11 start CLOMID + NOLVA

 

[Hockeyplaya18]

Also, I waited 3-4 weeks into the cycle to start taking Aromasin, It brought down the bloat I was getting from Estro increase.

Then I got a blood tests done at week 6 to check out all my levels to see if I need to make adujustments to my Aromasin, to witch I was pretty much spot on!!

Ill def be following this, and helping you out along the way bro!! TALL GUY LOVE (No homo) haha

 

[pikiki]

Nice Cycle plan, Deja Vu!!! haha.

For the HCG Blast phase of 10 days should look more like this bra!

DAY 1- 1000iu's

DAY 2- Nothing

DAY 3- 1000iu's

DAY 4-nothing

DAY 5- 1000iu's

DAY 6- nothing

DAY 7- 1000iu's

DAY 8- nothing

DAY 9- 1000iu's

DAY 10- nothing

DAY 11 start CLOMID + NOLVA

X2 I like what my boy just put out for you or the 500ius for all 10 days is a gtg. Abou the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for 10 days before the hcg I really think you don`t have to do it just my opinion. It`s up to you, and agree with temptation about the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) just make sure is on hand once seing sides from test if you get any then start, cycle looks good.

 

[Mistafunnyman]

Nice Cycle plan, Deja Vu!!! haha.

For the HCG Blast phase of 10 days should look more like this bra!

DAY 1- 1000iu's

DAY 2- Nothing

DAY 3- 1000iu's

DAY 4-nothing

DAY 5- 1000iu's

DAY 6- nothing

DAY 7- 1000iu's

DAY 8- nothing

DAY 9- 1000iu's

DAY 10- nothing

DAY 11 start CLOMID + NOLVA

ah ok that looks nicer ha ha i think my body wont mind that as much


and yh cheers, im looking forward to this now and will defs keep peeps updated with a log and pics

ha ha lol i like the tall man cooment (not homo)

 

[Mistafunnyman]

X2 I like what my boy just put out for you or the 500ius for all 10 days is a gtg. Abou the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for 10 days before the hcg I really think you don`t have to do it just my opinion. It`s up to you, and agree with temptation about the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) just make sure is on hand once seing sides from test if you get any then start, cycle looks good.

oh ok yh ur probs right about not needing to do the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for those 10 days. have it on hand to be safe

 

[Mistafunnyman]

And yeh deja vu lol


thought id go for something thats been tried and tested for a tall guy or at least planned around a tall guys stats.


seen too many crap cycles

 

[pikiki]

I will follow this one too bro hope you get what yo want out of this cycle

 

[Hockeyplaya18]

And yeh deja vu lol


thought id go for something thats been tried and tested for a tall guy or at least planned around a tall guys stats.


seen too many crap cycles

Yeaaaa Budddy!!!

You got your new diet all set up?? Did you check out 3j's diet advice?? He knows his shit!

 

[Mistafunnyman]

havent got my diet completely set up but i did look at 3js threads, and they were a big help.

u got any tips for diet? calorie intake? etc?

 

[juced_porkchop]

Looks good, however you don't NEED to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from a to z, especially if running a single aromatizing compound and no HCG on cycle. Keep it on hand and use it if you have to (bloat goes out of hand, gyno). Maybe you won't need it at all, who knows. A lot of people agree that running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will hinder your gains so keep it aside unless actually needing it. Estro is not always your enemy, especially when going for mass.

I started getting itchy nipples only around mid cycle so clearly in my case it would've been a waste to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning. Indeed, I got the red face and some bloat early on which are both estro signs BUT as long as my BP was fine those were manageable things, for me at least.

It would not be a waste to run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day one, it help keep you healthy, stroke and embolisms can happen with higher blood pressure, guess what higher estrogen brings.........BP issues. And you might never have a gyno issue.
I think it***8217;s good to run a mild Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with ANY test dose over Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) amount.
Might not be "needed" but it***8217;s a good idea.

Also what do you mean no HCG on cycle?
If he***8217;s going to use it THAT WHEN you use it. NOT on pct. Some say whole cycle I say the last 4-5 weeks of cycle leading up to BUT NOT INTO PCT, 500 IU 2X a week.

But this is not needed, and I really only rec it when using prong steroids like deca and tren, to help recovery.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Im 6'6'' and 210 pounds. Im extremely lean, though very proub of my abs

However in about 7-8 months (too much work on at the moment to commit to a cycle) I will end my battle with the "scrawny" lifestyle and test the waters with Test Enanthate.

Im 24 years old, which I know is pretty young, but I have been doing weights since I was about 17 and over the years have improved diet, workouts, supplementation etc and have made gains, but I want to just give myself that little bit extra.


Soooooo, without further ado and after a fair amount of research and questions I have come to a conclusion for a cycle.


I will do an 18 week cycle that includes the PCT.

Weeks 1-18 I will take 12.5mg of Aromasin

Weeks 1-12 I will take 600mg of test E a week split into 2, 300mg injections on monday and thursday

Week 13 after last test E injection I will do 10 days of the Aromasin alone.

Week 14 (ish) after the ten days of Aromasin alone I will then add a blast cycle of 500 Iu of HCG for another ten days.

Week 15-16 after the last dose of HCG I will have one day of 100mg Clomid and 40 mg of Nolva, followed by 50mg Clomid and 40mg Nolva each day for the rest of weeks 15-16

Week 17-18 i will cut the cut the Nolva down to 20mg but keep Clomid at 50mg.



Diet will be clean and at around 5000 kcals. Meats in the form of chicken and beef mainly but with some pork and fish too.

Lots of protein (around 350-400g) and lots of carbs (around 450-500g)

eat 6-7 times a day and drink about 3-4 litres a day.


train 4 times a week with plenty of rest.


Bring it on!!!

I rec 14-16 wks of test but it looks great .

 

[Hockeyplaya18]

It would not be a waste to run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day one, it help keep you healthy, stroke and embolisms can happen with higher blood pressure, guess what higher estrogen brings.........BP issues. And you might never have a gyno issue.
I think it***8217;s good to run a mild Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with ANY test dose over Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) amount.
Might not be "needed" but it***8217;s a good idea.

Also what do you mean no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle?
If he***8217;s going to use it THAT WHEN you use it. NOT on pct. Some say whole cycle I say the last 4-5 weeks of cycle leading up to BUT NOT INTO PCT, 500 IU 2X a week.

But this is not needed, and I really only rec it when using prong steroids like deca and tren, to help recovery.

So you totally Disagree with the 10 day blast phase?? Im always open to a better PCT, and since I have yet to try the way I have planned (Which I came up with after a ton of research) I really have no say in what works exactly.

So you basically Tease the HPTA towards the end of your cycle, then just wait till the Test clears depending on what ester your running, then start Clomid/Nolva??