My first ever cycle "TRT" (taking Ultra Test 250 & Sermorelin)

[FriscoTxAggie]

I am totally new to all of this and will need tips and advise from you guys.

Im 31 years old.
Weigh 208
Ht: 5'11

I started with my first pin almost 2 weeks ago (March 9th). Here is what I have been taking...

• Ultra Test 250, 1 cc weekly

• Sermorelin (HGH), 100 mcg nightly

• B12, 1 cc weekly

• HCG, 5oo IU 2 times per week

• Anastrazole, 1 o.5 mg pill every 3rd day

The reason Im talking this is mainly because I found out my testosterone level was at 117 and I was lacking energy, motivation, and I gained around 20 pounds over the last year of bad weight, and want to get my body healthy again the way it was a few years ago.
Since the beginning of the cycle (if thats what you call it) I have been and will continue to work out 5 days a week (lifting weights, & cardio), and incorperate a moderate to sort of good diet. My goal is to lose fat, get my six pack back, and regain overall health. I would love to lose the 20 lbs I gained but I understand its more about the way I look and feel than a number on a weight scale.

I am on day 12 today.
Week 1: I didnt really feel much difference, but I did have one sore ass cheek for about 5-6 days as I had some virgin glutts. Walking around with a limp was kind of funny to me. One positive is I did have more motivation to go work out. Not sure if that extra motivation was from my injections or if I was just pumped to get started and excited to work out again because I was taking some "goodies" that I knew would be helping me. Also, from the first day onwards I have had great, solid sleep from the sermorelin HGH shots.
Week 2: I have felt a little bit of improvement in stregth, little bit more energy, improved libido & great wood, still have great sleep from the sermorelin, and can see a little bit of change in body shape.

I plan on posting on here a couple times per week and letting you guys know how it is going. I'm really excited about the Sermorelin, but from what I hear it takes about a month before you start to feel any benefits from it (other than great sleep, which you benefit right away)!

I have a few questions for yall:
I am curious if the amount of Test that I am taking is low, medium, or a very good amount for a complete first timer. I would also like to know if you guys think I will start to notice more of a "kick" around week 3 or 4 from the Test? And what kind of results can someone expect out of taking Ultra Test 250 for 20 weeks. Lastly, I am wondering if taking this will help in burning fat and stuff like that.

Thanks & wish me luck!!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if your test levels are low-it will help with the fat-117 is really low-did the doc put you on?

250mg as a straight testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose is a hefty one-but i would not call it a cycle-never the less it may be all you need since your levels are so low. you should be feeling even better the next couple weeks

good luck

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

BTW with your levels being in the tank like they are-you should not cycle-you should get a script and run it for the long hall (forever)

 

[FriscoTxAggie]

Yes the doc put me on the Ultra Test 250, but I decided to take the sermorelin myself. I have no idea what a "cycle" officially is...... I just assumed it was the time period you take your stuff from start to finish.

I was taking some high levels of pain meds for a bad back over the last 2 years and it made my T levels drop like a rock in water. I personally always wanted to try Test shots & HGH and see if I could improve my stregth and body shape. Once I knew my T level dropped that low I guessed it would be easy to get a script from my doc.

I am wanting to take full advantage of the next 20 weeks while on the Test, and 6 months on the sermorelin. If all goes well with the Test these first 20 weeks then I plan on taking a short rest and then doing it again.

I plan on taking before and after photos and really hope to see some positive changes! Any advise is welcomed.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

a cycle would be considered anywhere from 350mg-600mg a week. but you cycle it like 12 weeks on 12 weeks off.

your case is completely different-you will not be able to come off once you start-your test levels will go from 117 to 0..........and trying to get them going again to produce 117 is silly. my advice-find a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose and stay on it forever.......you should see dramatic improvements cause your natural test is so low.......i dont think you should look at it as 20 weeks.........take it indefineately. then once you get in shape on your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) meds.....run cycles of up to 600mg-and fall back on your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose after 12 weeks or so.

anyways thats just my opinion-nothing more

will be following your log-you will be very happy with your progress i think

 

[FriscoTxAggie]

like I said before..... I am completely new to all of this and actually kind of clueless.

I am totally open to running this for now on and going with what your recommending. You mentioned that with my low levels of 117 they could drop to zero after Im done with the 20 weeks. Do you not think that once my T levels get back up to a normal range they will stay up there? I once had really high levels before the pain meds and just finished getting of those meds. So my guess was since Im no longer on the pain meds and Im now taking the Test shots to so call "boost" my levels back up..... then my levels would stay up there since thats were they use to be?

 

[prsgtr37]

In regards to that, I am also a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patient on .5cc/wk or 100mg. I would like to cycle and am an avid lifter. I have seen good results over the past year on this. If I did do 600mg say for 8 wks then would I need to go on a pct to get back to normal or would it not make a difference since my pituitary is screwed up anyway? My guess is I would need to do a post cycle therapy (pct). Any comments would be great.

a cycle would be considered anywhere from 350mg-600mg a week. but you cycle it like 12 weeks on 12 weeks off.

your case is completely different-you will not be able to come off once you start-your test levels will go from 117 to 0..........and trying to get them going again to produce 117 is silly. my advice-find a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose and stay on it forever.......you should see dramatic improvements cause your natural test is so low.......i dont think you should look at it as 20 weeks.........take it indefineately. then once you get in shape on your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) meds.....run cycles of up to 600mg-and fall back on your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose after 12 weeks or so.

anyways thats just my opinion-nothing more

will be following your log-you will be very happy with your progress i think

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you should start a new thread-but to answer your questionb-no you would just fall back on your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose-there would be no reason to do PCT in your case.

this is called the blast and cruise method. when you blast though-with long esters-i would go no less than 10 weeks

 

[StoneColdNTO]

• Sermorelin (HGH), 100 mcg nightly

100 mcg is 1/10 of a mg and there are ~ 3 IU HGH in a mg, so you are taking 0.3 IU day.

That isn't enough to get any results in a mouse........lol

 

[JMB1]

Stone,
Sermorelin is not GH correct? It works
by making your pituitary make more of
it's own GH?

100 mcg is 1/10 of a mg and there are ~ 3 IU HGH in a mg, so you are taking 0.3 IU day.

That isn't enough to get any results in a mouse........lol

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Stone,
Sermorelin is not GH correct? It works
by making your pituitary make more of
it's own GH?

Don't know....he stated it was HGH and I just figured it was some new brand that I never heard of.

 

[Teutonic]

I just figured it was some new brand that I never heard of.

Now that s hard to believe Stone !!!
PR37..I was at 110..yeah.
I get 200 mg test e 2 a month..and blast for 12-16 weeks with my doc s approval as long as I heed his advice when blood level s are checked....your gonna feel better and have a much more optimistic view on everything my friend.
Good luck.

 

[prsgtr37]

Now that s hard to believe Stone !!!
PR37..I was at 110..yeah.
I get 200 mg test e 2 a month..and blast for 12-16 weeks with my doc s approval as long as I heed his advice when blood level s are checked....your gonna feel better and have a much more optimistic view on everything my friend.
Good luck.

I started a threat on this and nobody responded so I will expand on it here I guess.

My T-levels when I first started out with 150 mg every 14 days were around 1900-2000 at peak. I was then put on weekly injections of 100mg(.5cc). I don't think my doc will appreciate it if I told him I was going to cycle. So I will get another source and cycle between blood work every 6 months or so. I makes sense to start will high doses of test and not stack at this point although I amTest tested (pun intended). I have a nephew who stacks with Tren-tri or what ever and is extremely huge. I am after only really good definition and modest size which I am not far from now with my current setup. I will post some pics soon and get some feedback.