Hello, First, sorry for mistakes, English is not my native language. 
I'm 23 years old, I train about 4+ years and I wanted push my limits a little, cuz I felt I was kinda stagnated for a long time. My knowledge about training/diet is really good.
So I decided to try some PHs first. I read a lot about 1st cycles, that I decided choose "RPN HAVOC"
My cycle looked like this:
pre-Cycle: liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries + vitamins, joint supp etc.
Cycle: Havoc, liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, NAC + vitamins, joint supp etc.
PCT: liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, NAC, DAA, Tamoxifen + vitamins, joint supp etc.
Dosing:
I started dosing with 20mg per day for first 4 days.. Than I was taking 30mg per day for 24 days.. Than 40mg per day for last 14 days of cycle.
So my cycle was 6 weeks long, as I read that is optional for Havoc, cuz it doesn't kick in until week 3 or so.
Experience:
OK. I really started noticing havoc start to kick in on day 11. Fuck, that was awesome. I didnt know myself. Weights, my strength, energy. Everything was epic!
I needed to raise up weight almost on every damn exercise. I picked up barbell, sat down in front of machine, loaded with usual weight and I was like "What the fuck? Its too little". I was never stronger,. Really! It was awesome until my delts starting have bad times. I was forced to increase joints supp up to 3x lol.
Side Effects?
Except mentioned joints hurt and 3-5 days of headache overall in my cycle, NO SIDE EFFECTS
Stats:
My weight has increased by 5,8kg. My strength was enormous. I felt really great. My arms size (biceps/triceps) has increased by 1,5cm. My waist about 0,25cm.
When I looked into mirror, It seemed to me, that abs definition was better, less bodyfat%, bigger deltoids, bis, tris!
Now, I have last 10 days of post cycle therapy (pct). I lost 2kg, but my arms size remains the same and my waist size decrease about 0,25cm. So it could by fat or so. Im not mad at all of that weight loss.
During the cycle, I was NOT trying bulking or so. So Im rly surprised!
I recommend Havoc
Now, I have a question. I was thinking about 2nd cycle this autumn/winter. Would you guys recommend me something? My goal is gain lean mass. I was thinking about H-Drol or p-mag. But really dont know.
I'm 23 years old, I train about 4+ years and I wanted push my limits a little, cuz I felt I was kinda stagnated for a long time. My knowledge about training/diet is really good.
So I decided to try some PHs first. I read a lot about 1st cycles, that I decided choose "RPN HAVOC"
My cycle looked like this:
pre-Cycle: liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries + vitamins, joint supp etc.
Cycle: Havoc, liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, NAC + vitamins, joint supp etc.
PCT: liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, NAC, DAA, Tamoxifen + vitamins, joint supp etc.
Dosing:
I started dosing with 20mg per day for first 4 days.. Than I was taking 30mg per day for 24 days.. Than 40mg per day for last 14 days of cycle.
So my cycle was 6 weeks long, as I read that is optional for Havoc, cuz it doesn't kick in until week 3 or so.
Experience:
OK. I really started noticing havoc start to kick in on day 11. Fuck, that was awesome. I didnt know myself. Weights, my strength, energy. Everything was epic!
I needed to raise up weight almost on every damn exercise. I picked up barbell, sat down in front of machine, loaded with usual weight and I was like "What the fuck? Its too little". I was never stronger,. Really! It was awesome until my delts starting have bad times. I was forced to increase joints supp up to 3x lol.
Side Effects?
Except mentioned joints hurt and 3-5 days of headache overall in my cycle, NO SIDE EFFECTS
Stats:
My weight has increased by 5,8kg. My strength was enormous. I felt really great. My arms size (biceps/triceps) has increased by 1,5cm. My waist about 0,25cm.
When I looked into mirror, It seemed to me, that abs definition was better, less bodyfat%, bigger deltoids, bis, tris!
Now, I have last 10 days of post cycle therapy (pct). I lost 2kg, but my arms size remains the same and my waist size decrease about 0,25cm. So it could by fat or so. Im not mad at all of that weight loss.
During the cycle, I was NOT trying bulking or so. So Im rly surprised!
I recommend Havoc
Now, I have a question. I was thinking about 2nd cycle this autumn/winter. Would you guys recommend me something? My goal is gain lean mass. I was thinking about H-Drol or p-mag. But really dont know.
