My Second Cycle - Any Additions?

[hit9111zedeight]

My first cycle went beautifully. 12 weeks of test e 500mg/wk. Got my bloods back today and I'm g2g for another round. Will be starting in a month (which makes it 3 months between my last cycle & this one). I'm looking to put on plenty of mass with this next one. I got a solid 15 pounds out of last cycle, and anything similar would be amazing. The prop & aromasin will be SCIROXX & the SERMs/AI will be from RUI.

1-10 test prop 100mg EOD
1-10 exemestane 12.5mg E3D

PCT (3 days after last pin):
clomid 75/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

My question is whether or not I should venture out into the world of other compounds, or save it for something past my second cycle. Any opinions/recommendations for this cycle are greatly appreciated.

 

[Austinite]

Hello, hit.

1. Take the cycle down to 8 weeks.
2. Frontload your 1st week of PCT with Clomid at 75, and replace your Nolva protocol with 40/20/20/20.
3. Consider hCG on cycle @ 250 iu twice weekly to maintain testicular function and aid in recovery.
4. If you want to experience a secondary compound, go with tbol or Anavar (var) for 6 week.

That said, I'm a big fan of the saying "If it aint broke, don't fix it", which would reference repeating your successful first cycle.

Best of luck to you.

 

[Strong Man]

clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 20/20/10/10
or
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[Ocdude]

I'm more of the thought that if you're using the same compound as before, add something else if you want... Since it sounds like an all out bulk, maybe try dbol at the front end.
Of course it's more about proper diet than anything else.

 

[Austinite]

OP I made the mistake of not asking your stats. Please list them.

 

[kaname]

Many run test only for their first few cycles, so that's totally up to you. If you're looking for something that would be a great addition to that cycle you've purposed, I would say NPP. Both will be shot EOD, and can be pinned in the same needle. If you do run the NPP you will need a P.I., preferably caber or prami. Many tolerate caber much easier than prami.

Overall I like the fact that you're keeping your second cycle simple. That shows you're in the right mindset. More is not always better.

 

[imdennis]

OP I made the mistake of not asking your stats. Please list them.

more like list your g2g cycle 2 stats, is he counting 3 months from his last pin or after pct? cause if hes just going from last pin then buddy he forgot to include 2 week break + pct...... which would give him 6 more weeks 6 weeks = month and 1/2.. so really hes only been clean for 1 1/2 months... doubt his blood work is good...

 

[hit9111zedeight]

Yes sorry, I mis-typed my nolva. I'll be doing 40/40/20/20. Decided to front load clomid as I didn't get many sides from it last time.

My stats are 23 y/o, 197 lbs, about 3.5 years of training under my belt. Don't have an official BF read but its somewhere near 10% probably. The three months is from after PCT & the 2 weeks.

I don't really want mess with dbol as I heard the bloat can be fairly bad. Is this the same in tbol? I would love to do NPP but that shit is expensive. I'll keep searching for a better priced source.

As to the 8 weeks vs 10 weeks of prop, what do other people think? Will those last 2 weeks be significantly less productive?

 

[4rings2snails]

more like list your g2g cycle 2 stats, is he counting 3 months from his last pin or after post cycle therapy (pct)? cause if hes just going from last pin then buddy he forgot to include 2 week break + post cycle therapy (pct)...... which would give him 6 more weeks 6 weeks = month and 1/2.. so really hes only been clean for 1 1/2 months... doubt his blood work is good...

Wait... Customary protocol for wait time for next cycle is: time on gear PLUS 2 weeks PLUS post cycle therapy (pct) time?

 

[riprockwell]

Wait... Customary protocol for wait time for next cycle is: time on gear PLUS 2 weeks PLUS post cycle therapy (pct) time?

Yes. You were on long ester gear so it takes 2 weeks to clear your system. So if your cycle was 12 weeks plus 2 weeks before starting post cycle therapy (pct) and then 4 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct) equals 18 weeks. Meaning, theoretically, you should be 18 weeks off of gear. However, I will be honest and say I have never waited that long. Lol. As for your cycle, this is just a preference, but I love long ester gear over SE gear all day. Its just a matter of opinion. Tbol is a great compound with very very minimal bloat. I think you would do good on Test P and NPP or Test P and Var. I personally would do NPP. Good luck.