My son and steroids

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My son is a body builder and is ordering steroids, something which I'm completely ignorant of.
Is tamodex 10 legal in the US and california without prescription? The package also has the name tamoxifen citrate printed on it.

Is equipoise legal in the US and california without prescription?

Is testosterone enanthate legal in the US and california without prescription?

Being legal would not mean that they are necessarily safe. What are the potential side effects of these three steroids.

Please be honest. I know that answers will be coming from steroid friendly people. I have a feeling there is too much steroid hype out there but I also believe there is some truth to negative side effects. This is about the legality of my sons usage and potential side effects so it's a big deal.

Thanks in advance....
 
eq illegal
enanthate illegal
unless he has a prescription... Side effects ??? Depends on each person... Acne, hair loss, testicular atrophy, liver damage , high blood preassure... I mean the lists go on and on , my oppinion is if done correctly and not abused (define abused) most ppl will never have any issues. I mean the tamox (aka nolvadex) is a post cycle therapy drug used to aid in recovery after steroid usage stops.. So it appears to me that he has done his homework, I am no scientist and fairly new to this myself but what I have said above can be found all over this forum and the web from real Dr s and everyday ppl. I am sure others with more knowledge will be able to shed more light for you soon.
 
jjtattoofreak said:
eq illegal
enanthate illegal
unless he has a prescription... Side effects ??? Depends on each person... Acne, hair loss, testicular atrophy, liver damage , high blood preassure... I mean the lists go on and on , my oppinion is if done correctly and not abused (define abused) most ppl will never have any issues. I mean the tamox (aka nolvadex) is a post cycle therapy drug used to aid in recovery after steroid usage stops.. So it appears to me that he has done his homework, I am no scientist and fairly new to this myself but what I have said above can be found all over this forum and the web from real Dr s and everyday ppl. I am sure others with more knowledge will be able to shed more light for you soon.
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So the tamodex 10 is actually legal and is for when you stop using steroids....even though I found the other two in his room and the tamodex 10 showed up later?
Thanks
 
I cant say it is legal, it is used for women.... It is only legal with a prescrip too... How old is your son ? here is a link Tamoxifen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia it is used to help het natural testosterone back up, because using steroids causes your body to stop producing test naturally... If he is under 25 you may want to talk to him about the fact using it too young an age can cause the growth plates to close and stop him from growing, cause him to be sterile, and make him a canidate for testosterone replacment therapy ... post cycle therapy (pct) link Profiles - Steroidology.com.. this will help you research and get alot of answers also ..
 
it showed up later because he either did nt know he needed to post cycle therapy (pct) and then researched or could nt afford it all at once, or hid it better ..
 
I commend u for not jumping to conclusions for his use and seeking more information. Steroids are illegal in the USA but can be obtained rather easy and secure. Refer him to this site since there are avid AAS users here with a lot of good info
 
bro you need to take his steriods away from him before he fucks up his natural hormones. be a good father and don't let him use until age 24/25. Im assuming hes young bc of HIS FATHER finding his stash.....lol

PS. PM me and i'll take them off your hands.
 
like said above I mean yeah he is gonna fuck up some things at a young age but shit be glad you did nt find spoons needles and some black tar , I d rather my kids do roids than other shit .. Just my oppinion though
 
howdyduty05 said:
bro you need to take his steriods away from him before he fucks up his natural hormones. be a good father and don't let him use until age 24/25. Im assuming hes young bc of HIS FATHER finding his stash.....lol

PS. PM me and i'll take them off your hands.
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He just turned 24. He's living with me because with the economy as it is, his fitness trainer biz went nearly down the tubes....he's just earning a lot less and I was willing to give him reduced rent in exchange for his helping with my home businessin his spare time. I found the steroids because I searched his room because of other suspicions. Everyone is saying it's ALL illegal so it seems that course of action would be not give them back to him regardless of his age. And I would be trashing the stuff since I assume it would be illegal to give/sell them to someone else.
 
you can do that but that is sorta gonna probably piss him off alot... Yeah it is your house, and you were comming here with an open mind but I see that was a false hood, and you have your anti roid sheild on full force... He is a grown man, kinda sad your going through his stuff in the first place, yes your house, but his room his choice you have no control and even if you trash em he aint gonna quit, and is your relationship worth loosing over something that is nt really as dangerous as it is portrayed ?? Really is it ?? But hey that is all on you. Good day.
 
and unless he is walking around with a bottle of roids taped to his face the legality aint that big a deal unless he gets caught but still ,there looking for crakc heads meth heads heroin addicts and shit, they stumble on to roids most of the time... But hey I understand your concerns, but you got to understand this could cause some real tension, I mean you searched his room, he pays rent so he should have privacy, he is an adult, old enough to die for his country old enough to make his own decisions... I am just giving you some advance on how I see shit going down..... and no one is really asking you to give them his roids, its an inside joke " I ll take em off your hands " ha ha ha funny.. anyway good luck and let us know how it goes I am intrigued most definatly... :)
 
jjtattoofreak said:
you can do that but that is sorta gonna probably piss him off alot... Yeah it is your house, and you were comming here with an open mind but I see that was a false hood, and you have your anti roid sheild on full force... He is a grown man, kinda sad your going through his stuff in the first place, yes your house, but his room his choice you have no control and even if you trash em he aint gonna quit, and is your relationship worth loosing over something that is nt really as dangerous as it is portrayed ?? Really is it ?? But hey that is all on you. Good day.
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WEll...actually I came here thinking that these particular steroids might be legal and wondering if all the hype I've heard was BS or truth?

Is this stuff not true...because nobody has disputed it so far at least.....

Side effects ??? Depends on each person... Acne, hair loss, testicular atrophy, liver damage , high blood preassure... I mean the lists go on and on
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As far as the room being his....it's a rented room and it sounds like the stuff is an illegal substance, at least without a prescription. It's not legal in ANY room and all rooms are rented under the terms of the landlord.

Your point about his being angered is relevant to a degree....based upon the individual. I know my son and will be able to find out with a few questions how much time he's spent looking into the side effects of this stuff. Likely not much based on other things which I know about him. Hew acts first and thinks later.

But even if I were renting that room to an unrelated stranger, that person would not have the right to bring anything illegal inside, or even a pet cat if the landlord rules said otherwise.

I do appreciate your time and perspective though and would be greatly interested in anything you know about the side effects.

At this point, I already have the roids, he's already mad and moved out for now, and it's a question of trashing them or giving them back to him...based on what I find out here.
 
let him keep the tamo( nolvadex) if you destroy his shit he needs to post cycle therapy (pct) or you could be the reason he gets sides and has something bad happen, post cycle therapy (pct) is important..
 
jjtattoofreak said:
like said above I mean yeah he is gonna fuck up some things at a young age but shit be glad you did nt find spoons needles and some black tar , I d rather my kids do roids than other shit .. Just my oppinion though
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What things will he fuck up?

I definatly appreciate the difference between black tar and steroids.
 
You may want to sit down with him and do a little research on OLOGY(here) with him and you both come to a decision.... I feel like Dr phil. lol Sides vary from person to person, he may loose some hair, his nuts will shrivel, but with proper pdt come back, they shrivel due to shut down of the natural test. He may have high blood preassure, he may be really horny, he may get acne, there are so many mays and what ifs... there are no real scientific studies showing anything to back up most negative claims on roids.. i will pm you with some studies..
 
things he may fuck up.... Close growth plates causing him to stop growing.. Become sterile, completley shut down natural test levels and have to be on steroid s(testosterone replacment therapy) things like that . Only way to know is after post cycle therapy (pct) get blood work done and see if his body produces its own test again, and sperm count to see if he can have kids..
 
jjtattoofreak said:
and unless he is walking around with a bottle of roids taped to his face the legality aint that big a deal unless he gets caught but still ,there looking for crakc heads meth heads heroin addicts and shit, they stumble on to roids most of the time... But hey I understand your concerns, but you got to understand this could cause some real tension, I mean you searched his room, he pays rent so he should have privacy, he is an adult, old enough to die for his country old enough to make his own decisions... I am just giving you some advance on how I see shit going down..... and no one is really asking you to give them his roids, its an inside joke " I ll take em off your hands " ha ha ha funny.. anyway good luck and let us know how it goes I am intrigued most definatly... :)
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Appreciate your response and perspective. The reasons for searching his room go back years and he knew about the possibility before he moved back in with me. One of the decisions he made was to move back in with a guy who knows ALL his history and who made it clear ahead of time that searching the room was a REAL possibility.

Whats the penalty for these types of steroids?
 
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