My third cycle in 2 years

[Sami777]

I'm planning to have my third cycle in about 1week My plan to put on 40-60lb, my cycle would look like this:


Dbol 40mgday week1-10
androl 25mg week 1-4
test prop 500mg week 1-12
tren ace 300mg week 1-12
test E 500mg weeks 1-12

and i might run some Nolvadex
in the end of my cycle

 

[olddawg]

I'm planning to have my third cycle in about 1week My plan to put on 40-60lb, my cycle would look like this:


Dbol 40mgday week1-10
androl 25mg week 1-4
test prop 500mg week 1-12
tren ace 300mg week 1-12
test E 500mg weeks 1-12

and i might run some Nolvadex
in the end of my cycle

this cycle is a mess bro, where do I start.
First, dbol is fine, but 4-5 weeks not the whole cycle, and not with drol both at full dose. If this is your third cycle and you need this much gear, you had better change labs.
Second, Tren is 5x stronger than test, so why all that test? No need for it plus it'll cause so much gyno for you that you'll be out bra shopping.
Third, where is your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle, tren binds to the progesterone receptor but does not activate it, thus causing increased upregulation of estrogen. this means that you will be much more gyno prone on tren than on test alone.
Fourth, gaining fourty to sixty pounds on one cycle will be alot of fat because you can't grow muscle that fast even with aas. ...and I am not sure you can eve gain that much fat in that short a time.

So I have a couple of recomendations to you:
Either, drop the idea of tren, to a test/equipoise cycle with a dbol kicker, or

do a tren ace cycle like this:
1-3 dbol 40mg,
1-12 tren ace 200mg (and after 2 weeks you can up the dosage if sides are ok to a max of 400 if your gear is good)
1-12 masteron 500mg week
1-12 test at 250/week, doesn't matte which prop or enth
letro at 1/2 or 1/5 (so 1.25mg to .8mg) every 3rd day to keep the titties away

a proper 6 week pct of clomid if you want to recover best you can as tren will shut you down to 0.

but really, sounds like you shouldn't be taking the tren adventure yet, 3rd cycle, dbol, test and eq with a aromasin as your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and you should grow if your lab is good

 

[river]

What are some stats? And I agree with old dawg, cycle looks a bit of a mess. A gram of test a week for your 3rd cycle plus all that tren? Curious where you came up with that cycle.

 

[Sami777]

olddawg thank you bro i like your idea helpful, i was thinking to do tren 1-8, really tren my first time and it's good to ask around first

 

[DrHiney]

Third, where is your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle, tren binds to the progesterone receptor but does not activate it, thus causing increased upregulation of estrogen. this means that you will be much more gyno prone on tren than on test alone.

An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will not help with gyno from tren, however it should be run because of the testosterone. Trenbolone can cause progesterone induced gyno, which is why you would need a drug like cabergoline or bromocriptine, etc (I and most others I know prefer caber). Cabergoline is a selective dopamine receptor agonist that inhibits the synthesis and release of prolactin from the anterior pituitary lactotrophs. Trenbolone is a very strong androgen which can stimulate the estradiol receptor, however it does not aromatize.

 

[DrHiney]

I'm planning to have my third cycle in about 1week My plan to put on 40-60lb, my cycle would look like this:


Dbol 40mgday week1-10
androl 25mg week 1-4
test prop 500mg week 1-12
tren ace 300mg week 1-12
test E 500mg weeks 1-12

and i might run some Nolvadex
in the end of my cycle

Might run a PCT?? ALWAYS run a PCT unless you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). This cycle will shut you down and it could take months to get back to normal production, if your body can actually handle restarting production without a PCT after all of this.

40-60lbs is a ridiculous goal.

I also agree that you should not run these two orals at the same time. pick one, and run it for 4 weeks. Tren Ace 50mg ED is a good beginning dosage and it can always be increase once you know how you react to it. ALWAYS do every day shots of tren ace, not EOD as some recommend, your blood levels will only remain stable (and therefor can cause fewer side effects) doing ED shots.

I would pick either a long estered test (enanthate) or the short estered one (propionate). Or you can run Enanthate and use Prop to frontload your test. Arimadex 0.5mg ED or Aromasin 12.5mg ED. Cabergoline 0.25mg E3D. For PCT continue the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for 6 weeks and also take clomid 50mg ED for 6 weeks. If you run the long estered test, begin taking the clomid 2 weeks after your last shot, and continue the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) all the way through until you finish the clomid.

 

[Sami777]

I started my cycle today like this 100mg masteron /100mg tren/ test-E 250mg, as PCT what's the best i should run????????
do i have to inject tren Ed for better results??????
i was wondering is 100mg twice aweek 200mg(tren) total week1-8, i beware of side effects,
Nolvadex or Letrozole for better results-??

any advice is appreciated......

 

[Sami777]

Might run a PCT?? ALWAYS run a PCT unless you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). This cycle will shut you down and it could take months to get back to normal production, if your body can actually handle restarting production without a PCT after all of this.

40-60lbs is a ridiculous goal.

I also agree that you should not run these two orals at the same time. pick one, and run it for 4 weeks. Tren Ace 50mg ED is a good beginning dosage and it can always be increase once you know how you react to it. ALWAYS do every day shots of tren ace, not EOD as some recommend, your blood levels will only remain stable (and therefor can cause fewer side effects) doing ED shots.

I would pick either a long estered test (enanthate) or the short estered one (propionate). Or you can run Enanthate and use Prop to frontload your test. Arimadex 0.5mg ED or Aromasin 12.5mg ED. Cabergoline 0.25mg E3D. For PCT continue the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for 6 weeks and also take clomid 50mg ED for 6 weeks. If you run the long estered test, begin taking the clomid 2 weeks after your last shot, and continue the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) all the way through until you finish the clomid.

thx bro helpful,
should i run Nolvadex or letrozole for better results-??

 

[DrHiney]

To be honest, you sound ill informed for this to be your 3rd cycle. Where the hell did the masteron come from? First you were asking about test, tren, and orals and now all of a sudden you throw in some masteron? You don't need to run another cycle until you know what the hell you are doing. You should ALWAYS have everything you will need for the cycle on hand BEFORE beginning.
I really don't understand your posts, I advised you should always inject trenbolone acetate every day, not every other day. But now you are asking about injecting it twice per week... Do you have tren acetate or enanthate? Also is the ren 100mg every day or every week? Because you listed test 250mg with it and you definitely should not run test e 250mg ED. You need to be much clearer and more specific with your posts, dosages etc.

Nolvadex and letrozole are not the same and nolva should never be run during a cycle accept for in extreme cases of gyno. And even then, you should not use nolva if you are running tren PERIOD. Nolva and tren together can increase the side effects of prolactin. If you do not have access to the two AIs I listed previously, then run letrozole. I do not recommend this, however, because both tren and letrozole can dry out your joints and the effect of them together can be very painful. If you are going to run the let, run 0.25mg EOD while on test, and then continue an extra 6 weeks after your last injection through your PCT along with the clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks beginning 2 weeks after your last injection of test.

Again, you need to get some cabergoline or bromocriptine to help with progestin induced gyno from the tren.

My advice, is stop. Get your shit together, and try again in about 4-6 months once you know what you are doing.

 

[Sami777]

Thx for the advice,my mistake it's test prop not masteron....
just strat my cycle monday so is not too late to do some changes,,
I did lots of research i fund some good results for first time tren use, I'm going to continue with my cycle like this

tren ace 50mg ed 1-6week/
test prop 50mg ed 1-10/
test enanthate 500mg week1-10/
dbol 40mg ed week 1-3/
caber 1 mg per week

pct
Arimadex
clomid