Natty production vs TRT

[Pantalones]

Are the two for the most part equivalent, or is natural testosterone made by your own testes far more superior than synthetic T? I've been thinking about it, and it seems that any average man with natural testosterone production can hit the gym and start to make some progress. I've talked to guys who have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for years and still say they had better gains natural, even with levels below 300 ng/dL. One guys said he felt more jacked at 100 ng/dL of testosterone than he ever has on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). DA FUQ?? Does no one successfully make gains on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? I guess you hear more doom and gloom than success stories..

 

[BZOERB]

My 2 cents
Natural vs Synthetic and the debate continues right? Well, you body does not care one bit it does not know whether its natural or synthetic if you have nature test level that is 1000 or a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) level of 1000 you are going to make the same gains. Now gains will vary from person to person because of genetics but not because of natural or synthetic test.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Are the two for the most part equivalent, or is natural testosterone made by your own testes far more superior than synthetic T? I've been thinking about it, and it seems that any average man with natural testosterone production can hit the gym and start to make some progress. I've talked to guys who have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for years and still say they had better gains natural, even with levels below 300 ng/dL. One guys said he felt more jacked at 100 ng/dL of testosterone than he ever has on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). DA FUQ?? Does no one successfully make gains on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? I guess you hear more doom and gloom than success stories..

most dont understand that its not just test levels that go down on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), there are other hormones and sub/pre-hormones thet stop/lower with shutdown (weather cycles or Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), but hrt is long term so matters more for supplementation long term).
you should also be taking pregnenolone and DHEA with your Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). not all bases are covered with only test injections.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I take both on or off cycle (hrt)

 

[IMT staff]

most dont understand that its not just test levels that go down on trt.
youshould also be taking pregnenolone and DHEA with your Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). not all bases are covered with only test injections.

I agree, it is also important to note that it is important to use transdermal, from the blood work I have seen, oral supplementation rarely brings levels up.

 

[killler]

Are the two for the most part equivalent, or is natural testosterone made by your own testes far more superior than synthetic T? I've been thinking about it, and it seems that any average man with natural testosterone production can hit the gym and start to make some progress. I've talked to guys who have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for years and still say they had better gains natural, even with levels below 300 ng/dL. One guys said he felt more jacked at 100 ng/dL of testosterone than he ever has on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). DA FUQ?? Does no one successfully make gains on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? I guess you hear more doom and gloom than success stories..

I have very low test all my life,around 280,and I have been able,training hard,to get monster natural strength(for example my bench is 400 pounds).

Make no mistake,exogenous T is the way to real mass,it won`t happen naturally.

Strenght,yes,can be gained naturally,and I am very pleased with that.

 

[Pantalones]

What do DHEA and pregnenelone do for you?

 

[newtohrt]

No gains on HRT, either

Are the two for the most part equivalent, or is natural testosterone made by your own testes far more superior than synthetic T? I've been thinking about it, and it seems that any average man with natural testosterone production can hit the gym and start to make some progress. I've talked to guys who have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for years and still say they had better gains natural, even with levels below 300 ng/dL. One guys said he felt more jacked at 100 ng/dL of testosterone than he ever has on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). DA FUQ?? Does no one successfully make gains on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? I guess you hear more doom and gloom than success stories..

FWIW - I have been on HRT for 11 months and I have never been able to make any gains or lose any fat by moving my total T from 400 (before) to 1200+ (after) and I have taken Pregnenolone and DHEA from the start. I have no E2 issues with my E2 level staying at 32-34 without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I figured (naively, it turns out) that tripling my Test from 400 to 1200+ would have made a noticeable difference, but in fact, I can’t really notice much of any difference at all. I still have no libido as well at the higher level.

That probably does not have anything to do with natural vs. synthetic Testosterone and I know that individual results vary. Some guys seem to get jacked on HRT.