Hi, another newbie question sorry. I’ve taken in a lot of useful info from here and planning to start my first PH cycle after a small cut (Any input/advice would be much appreciated!)
Quick Background:
Turning 24 soon
BodyFat 20%, 78.5kg / 173lb, 5ft9.5inch
Been training 4years, been on and off first 3 years due to working abroad and other commitments at times
Goal: Recomp-More emphasis on gaining lean size and lose a small % Bodyfat
From reading up I’m leaning towards Hdrol as my first PH
(Any other comments about Epistane, or even cynostane,androtest would be helpful)
---PLAN---
PRE-CYCLE 1wk
Hawthorne Berry & Milk Thistle
ON-CYCLE 5week
Hdrol 50/75/75/75/75/75
Cycle assist or Organ shield,
Joint support + Fish oil + Taurine
PCT 5week
Nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate) 20/20/20/10/10
Erase Pro
Lean.Activate Xtreme
Natural test booster
Creatine
Pre-workout
***Pre-Questions***
Could I start my cycle on 20% bodyfat or should I try cut down first (I don’t really want to as I tend to lose gains alot but if it’s a must I will)
As Hdrol doesn’t aromatise would there be much estrogen in my body?, But would there be an increased likelihood of estrogen related sides at a high 20% bodyfat.
***OnCycle Questions***
1) Would Hdrol be an ideal choice as a beginner, as there are some non-responders to Epi
How is my Hdrol dosage and should be run 5 or 6weeks?
2) Due to the high recovery, should I bother taking rest days or have ½ cardio days as my rest instead?
3) Due to the high test could I workout for upto say 2hours max (can only workout once a day), would my test levels remain high through a long period or should I keep them short-1hrmax?
4) For training it’s suggested to keep volume high at a max 4set12rep range upping the weight only then
5) What is a legit Hdrol brand you can recommend? I’m from the UK so a legit site for me is Predatornutriton.co.uk
- >Halodrol from FUSION SUPPLEMENTS (4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene3,17bdiol)
- >Halovar from PURUS LABS (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol + Insulin Mimetic)
- >Helladrol from NEED TO BUILD MUSCLE (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3, 17-diol)
Or are most logged Hdrols here are legit and I should pick the best value for money??
***PCT Questions***
1) Should I run my PCT the same as my PH cycle (6weeks), meaning running my Nolva for 6weeks or tapering it off near the end?
2) If I start seeing 1st sign of gyno or a major shrinking of testes, should I run nolva 20mg for 5days whilst running Hdrol? As this would make an impact on gains should I look into an AI?
3) For my PCT I’ll need a lot of Nolva tablets, I’m from the UK and looked at Unitedpharmacies-uk.md for Tamoxfen citrate, are these prices pretty standard?
- >Genox (Tamoxifen Citrate): £30 - 20mg (100 Tablets)
- >Cytotam (Tamoxifen Citrate): £50 - 20mg (100 Tablets)
4) For PCT training it’s been suggested a lower rep high weight session, I’m guessing this should be short to reduce cortisol??, ran with more recovery days?? maintain almost as much calories on cycle to keep muscle gains but not gain excess fat?
Quick Background:
Turning 24 soon
BodyFat 20%, 78.5kg / 173lb, 5ft9.5inch
Been training 4years, been on and off first 3 years due to working abroad and other commitments at times
Goal: Recomp-More emphasis on gaining lean size and lose a small % Bodyfat
From reading up I’m leaning towards Hdrol as my first PH
(Any other comments about Epistane, or even cynostane,androtest would be helpful)
---PLAN---
PRE-CYCLE 1wk
Hawthorne Berry & Milk Thistle
ON-CYCLE 5week
Hdrol 50/75/75/75/75/75
Cycle assist or Organ shield,
Joint support + Fish oil + Taurine
PCT 5week
Nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate) 20/20/20/10/10
Erase Pro
Lean.Activate Xtreme
Natural test booster
Creatine
Pre-workout
***Pre-Questions***
Could I start my cycle on 20% bodyfat or should I try cut down first (I don’t really want to as I tend to lose gains alot but if it’s a must I will)
As Hdrol doesn’t aromatise would there be much estrogen in my body?, But would there be an increased likelihood of estrogen related sides at a high 20% bodyfat.
***OnCycle Questions***
1) Would Hdrol be an ideal choice as a beginner, as there are some non-responders to Epi
How is my Hdrol dosage and should be run 5 or 6weeks?
2) Due to the high recovery, should I bother taking rest days or have ½ cardio days as my rest instead?
3) Due to the high test could I workout for upto say 2hours max (can only workout once a day), would my test levels remain high through a long period or should I keep them short-1hrmax?
4) For training it’s suggested to keep volume high at a max 4set12rep range upping the weight only then
5) What is a legit Hdrol brand you can recommend? I’m from the UK so a legit site for me is Predatornutriton.co.uk
- >Halodrol from FUSION SUPPLEMENTS (4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene3,17bdiol)
- >Halovar from PURUS LABS (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol + Insulin Mimetic)
- >Helladrol from NEED TO BUILD MUSCLE (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3, 17-diol)
Or are most logged Hdrols here are legit and I should pick the best value for money??
***PCT Questions***
1) Should I run my PCT the same as my PH cycle (6weeks), meaning running my Nolva for 6weeks or tapering it off near the end?
2) If I start seeing 1st sign of gyno or a major shrinking of testes, should I run nolva 20mg for 5days whilst running Hdrol? As this would make an impact on gains should I look into an AI?
3) For my PCT I’ll need a lot of Nolva tablets, I’m from the UK and looked at Unitedpharmacies-uk.md for Tamoxfen citrate, are these prices pretty standard?
- >Genox (Tamoxifen Citrate): £30 - 20mg (100 Tablets)
- >Cytotam (Tamoxifen Citrate): £50 - 20mg (100 Tablets)
4) For PCT training it’s been suggested a lower rep high weight session, I’m guessing this should be short to reduce cortisol??, ran with more recovery days?? maintain almost as much calories on cycle to keep muscle gains but not gain excess fat?
