Need advice on TO DO PCT OR NOT TO DO!!

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Aaron1969

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Hi
I m 46 and ran a short cycle for the first time:
T PROP : 100 EOD
BOLDY : 200 EOD
STANAZOLOL : 50 EOD
This was for 7 weeks only.
My blood test after 7 weeks :
e2 : 61.8
test free : 125
test total : 2193.89
hematocrit : 40.4
haemoglobin : 13.9
cholestrol total : 143
triglycerides: 58
cholestrol HDL : 46
LDL : 85.4
VLDL : 11.6
CHOL/HDL RATIO : 3.1

Now my question is should i start with pct or not?? I didnt do the blood test before starting the cycle.
 
do a pct.... and do blood work 6-8 weeks after pct.
no point taking bloods right when you finished cycle (unless checking if gear was real) because ofcourse the test levels would be elevated....
 
haha lol@pct Iwe done my first cycle without these cancer drugs and not one day have i had no libido, not one day have i had limp dick, not one day have i felt bad. And kept all the gains because i didn't have tot hrow up food because of all the serms! u guys promoting pct are just a sheep in a herd that dont think with their own head. Your body need to return back to homeostasis and you dont do that by taking even more drugs lol.

hcg during cycle, test taper and a little aromasin is the best one can do.

blame me now, but HAVE you ever done it my way?
 
Lenex said:
haha lol@pct Iwe done my first cycle without these cancer drugs and not one day have i had no libido, not one day have i had limp dick, not one day have i felt bad. And kept all the gains
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You must have the genetics of a God !
 
You must have the genetics of a God !
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No man, if you can tolerate serms, you have genetics of God!

I know i would throw up all day and have a headache from hell, dont know how that would help me keeping the gains..?
 
Lenex said:
No man, if you can tolerate serms, you have genetics of God!

I know i would throw up all day and have a headache from hell, dont know how that would help me keeping the gains..?
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continually running AAS cycles over and over again , and not ever running a PCT , yet being able to fully recover and feel great and keep all your gains is NOT NORMAL . Thats why I said 'genetics of a god' , or a bullet proof hpta.

however,, if YOU ran one or two cycles, and your hpta eventually recovered naturally . who gives a fuk. of course that can happen, but I wouldn't be giving people advise to go that route,, your advise NOT to run a pct can cause ill harm to those who would follow it over and over again
 
okay...you did your pcr, right? then why are you on trt now?

who gives a fuk? i give a fuk, because i dont want people to get cancer, i know 3 people personally that got cancer from serms, and thats not a coincidence. There are MEDICAL STUDIES, that women, who were given NOLVADEX for breast cancer, have had VERY high occurency of uterine caner!

I am talking facts here, but personal experience also comes into play.

However, i dont think i would recover after a tren or deca cycle, or anything like that. When i started roids i said to myself that i will stick to test and dht's only and i plan on doing that. Because i am young and recovery matters to me.
 
Lenex said:
okay...you did your pcr, right? then why are you on trt now?

who gives a fuk? i give a fuk, because i dont want people to get cancer, i know 3 people personally that got cancer from serms, and thats not a coincidence. There are MEDICAL STUDIES, that women, who were given NOLVADEX for breast cancer, have had VERY high occurency of uterine caner!

I am talking facts here, but personal experience also comes into play.

However, i dont think i would recover after a tren or deca cycle, or anything like that. When i started roids i said to myself that i will stick to test and dht's only and i plan on doing that. Because i am young and recovery matters to me.
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I was on TRT before I even ran an AAS cycle.

my "who gives a fuk" statement was in regards to YOU an YOUR experience of running one or two cycles and being able to eventually naturally recover from , because that is no big deal . Run 15 cycles over the next couple years and then come back and tell me if running no PCT still works for you or not.


Saying that SERMS cause cancer , and then you using the expereiential evidence of saying someone got cancer from a serm, when that someone already had a form of cancer to begin with .. is just plain silly.
Please provide the evidence of someone getting cancer from running a serm for PCT purposes. . you are aware that doctors prescribe men serms to help with testosterone issues, right ?

And this statement is plain ridiculous and shows you have no clue what your talking about.
Lenex said:
However, i dont think i would recover after a tren or deca cycle, or anything like that. When i started roids i said to myself that i will stick to test and dht's only and i plan on doing that. Because i am young and recovery matters to me.
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Test shuts you down , period . just as hard as does deca or tren, there is ZERO difference. shut down is binary , its either ON or OFF, just like a light switch . when you run test it turns it OFF . tren does the same thing.
 
you are aware that doctors prescribe men serms to help with testosterone issues, right ?
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are you aware that docotrs are real people and not gods, right?

And about the tren and deca shutdown, i wont even comment. jesus..

PCT is great, I'm out.
 
Lenex said:
are you aware that docotrs are people and not gods, right?

And about the tren and deca shutdown, i wont even comment. jesus..

PCT is great, I'm out.
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ok, well we will all still be here waiting for the blood work results, and the pics of the epic gains your able to keep with no pct needed.
 
Lenex said:
okay...you did your pcr, right? then why are you on trt now?

who gives a fuk? i give a fuk, because i dont want people to get cancer, i know 3 people personally that got cancer from serms, and thats not a coincidence. There are MEDICAL STUDIES, that women, who were given NOLVADEX for breast cancer, have had VERY high occurency of uterine caner!

I am talking facts here, but personal experience also comes into play.

However, i dont think i would recover after a tren or deca cycle, or anything like that. When i started roids i said to myself that i will stick to test and dht's only and i plan on doing that. Because i am young and recovery matters to me.
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Damn, men with uterine cancer? FYI: That's the ONLY site that has receptors potentially creating a risk for cancer.

There's being a sheep, and being an ignorant retard; guess which you're being. :)

Just because you had a negative reaction to one of the many SERMs available doesn't mean folks should forego the proactive method of HPTA recovery. But hey, at least your uterus is safe. ;)
 
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