Need help check out my Test/Tren/Mast stack

[juicestain789]

Hey guys just want some help I'm open to any ideas you may have I'm curious about those of you that have used lower amounts of test while on tren and gotten good results and just let me know what you think and what you would do differently

Currently this is what I have on hand:
100ml TestP 100mg
40ml TrenA 100mg
50ml MastP 100mg
200x Var 25mg

This is what I was thinking about running: not sure on the length I want to run either 8-14
Wk 1-12or14 TestP 75-90mg ED
Wk 1-12or14 MastP 50-60mg ED
Wk 1-8 TrenA 50-60mg ED
Wk 6-14 Var 50-75mg ED

Ancilllaries
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Caber .25mg 2/wk Wk 1-8
T3 25mcg ED
HCG 250 or 500iu E3D Wk 1-12or14

PCT
Aromasin 25mg ED
I have been using Tore lately 120/120/60/60
clomid 100/50/50
Osta 30mg ED

 

[juicestain789]

bump?

 

[couch]

Why the mast? Usually I see mast run at 500 test p/400 tren a/500 mast p per week. I am not a big fan of mast, but usually people like to use it for really cutting the lb's at the end of a cycle. This kind of looks like a cut but I can't be sure because you're not talking about your goals.

Why are you dropping the tren at week 8? I'd run this 12 weeks, run tren through to week 10, test to 12, and I'd run test at 500, tren at 400-500. If it's a cut, and you are running T3 here, you might considering cycling in clen two weeks on, two weeks off. There's at least one guy right now running 200mg test enanthate and 400mg tren enanthate, which seems like a reasonably good cycle too.

Have you run tren before?

 

[juicestain789]

I'm a competetive athlete still..
Goals: I need explosiveness, power and speed. I don't mind weight gain but I can't get slower running wise
I have used tren before I think it was bunk though. I've read from a lot of people that mast. is awesome especially for athletes with olympic lifting and stuff so I'm hoping it also translates over to speed.
I can take the cardio hit from tren because it's a power sport endurance isn't 100% important

 

[juicestain789]

bump

 

[couch]

Tren worries me if you can't get slower, "running-wise." And I also think you're mistaken about endurance. When I lift, I need the endurance. On a good training day, I put in a bit less than 200 reps of 65-85% lifts in about two hours. If I can't breathe, I can't train. If I need to wait ten minutes between sets, I cool down and I don't lift as well. Tren is a beast, and I don't think it suits your needs. That said, I train both powerlifting and olympic lifting and I run tren. However, you couldn't pay me to run more than 800 meters.

Have you considered running var/hgh instead? In fact, if I wanted to tailor-make a cycle for olympic lifting, I'd do something like:

1-16 500-750/wk test e
1-6, 12-16 var 50/day
12-16 50-75mg/day test suspension 1-2h pre-wo (lifting days only)
1-16 250 eod hcg

and I'd run 2-4iu hgh the whole time (I think you need 6+ months to really see results from gh). You could probably run this cycle three times a year if you were careful. Run the hgh year-round. Those last four weeks you'd be fucking unstoppable in the gym. If you didn't get awesome gains from that, I would think you have other problems.

The other thing I'd add here is that we like halotestin in powerlifting, so you might consider timing your cycle with an event so the last 4 weeks you were on halo up to a competition (this is how I run halo, actually). In that case, you'd run halo the last four weeks instead of var the last four weeks.

 

[RowsAreForTheHoes]

Tren is not good for the cardiovascular system. Mast is a great third compound. It's like a natural Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but it doesn't lower e a lot. Mast is very mild but helps with fat loss and makes you horney is hell. It also lowers shbg which is also good. What is your cycle experience? I've seen some guys like lower test than tren but a lot of guys feel like shit when they do that. Specially if this is your first run run tren I wouldn't run it higher than test but you have short esters which if having an issue with sides it can be out of your system in a few days.

 

[juicestain789]

Well all I need to do is be able to sprint really fast over 60m. I know speed will go down while on a cycle because of the tightness I will get from the gear. I want to use tren in this offseason to build a strong strength base and I think that is something tren is able to do and is a good off-season steroid. I want the mast in there because it compliments the other steroids very well and I have done a lot of research on it combined with other substances and a lot of people want it. I want to cut off any body fat and useless weight as well so I am able to run faster. The T3 is in there at a dose of 25-50mcg because I want to take it to help speed up my metabolism so I take in my food better and more efficiently I've seen it done by others before and I used to do it and I've gotten great results from it. this is what i'm thinking about running now. Also I don't mind doing daily pinning it's not a problem for me

75mg test p ED 1-12wk
60mg tren a ED 1-10wk
60mg Mast p ED 1-12wk
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
HCG 250iu tuesday and friday
Caber .5mg tuesday and friday
T3 25-50 mcg ED
HGH 10iu 3xwk on weight days
igf?
insulin 8iu on weight days?

I only lift weights 3-4 times a week. The training program I'm on is complex but when I'm not lifting weights I'm on the track, running hills, tempo work, yoga, and other things.
My diet is in check great. I monitor macros and everything take in plenty of vitamins and stuff.
I will most likely be eating around 3250 calories on this I'm 6' about 215-220 I'm not looking to gain much weight I just want to be lean explosive and strong.
I know from experience that from an athletic stand point I can perform better when I'm off or tapering off.

Let me know what you guys think

 

[couch]

HGH will do nothing for you in twelve weeks. You really don't need insulin here. At all. test/tren/mast, sure, we've talked about that. I still think tren is a bad idea for your needs, but you seem hell-bent on running it.