Need Help With My Pro Hormone Cycle

[SunSurfer12]

Hey guys,

So this will be my first PH cycle and of course I want to make sure I completely understand everything before I begin. There's a million different products and methods about doing this so it's somewhat overwhelming. I want this to be a recomp, so my goals are to gain 5-8lbs of lean, hard muscle and lower body fat by 1-2%. I realize that even with these supplements diet is a huge part and I already have a thorough understanding of my macro requirements. Anyway, here's my list of supplements and I would just like some second opinions on things I can add, remove, dosage changes, or any other suggestions you guys may have:

Pre-load: 2 weeks

AI Cycle Support

Cycle: 6 weeks

Halocor 50/75/75/75/75
AI Cycle Support
Multivitamin
Fish oil

PCT: 4 weeks

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Activate Xtreme
AI Cycle Support


Thanks in advance!

 

[Noob84]

I am assuming Halocor is Halodrol?
If so, you'll want taurine and fishoil along with good cycle support.
Nac should also be in there.
I have run it before at 75 / 100 / 100 / 125 / 125 / 125, but for my next run I'll try 75 all the way through.
Point being, you can run more if you feel like it and that first week of 50 is a waste IMHO.

 

[SunSurfer12]

Yeah, it's halodrol. What's nac? And the taurine is for the back pumps? This is my first cycle so I wasn't sure if I should be dosing as high as 100-125 but maybe I'll take your advice and just run 75 straight through.

 

[Noob84]

Google NAC - your liver will like it.
Yes, without Taurine your gonna be as mobile as a senior citizen and your joints will hurt like fuck without fishoil.

 

[SunSurfer12]

Ok, any other opinions?

 

[00S4Boy]

I'd go with Halo Mass over Halocor, quality tested pure products.

Celtic Labs Halo Mass (60 capsules) - Discount Halo Mass Supplements!

I'd probably run it 75mg or higher the whole cycle 50 is a very low dose.

AI cycle support contains NAC, it's one of the better dosed old formula Cycle Supports. For the newer stuff you'd be looking at Anteaus Labs Talos or LGI Damage Control(this also contains tudca though not entirely needed for a mild oral like halo). Some of the ingredients of the old formula cycle supports have lacking evidence of effective protection.

Antaeus Labs Talos 2.0 (120 capsules) - Discount Talos Supplements!

Back pumps from Halo shouldn't be overly debilitating, but having taurine on hand isn't a bad idea.

Also Halo isn't as dry as something like Epi so I wouldn't be to hugely concerned with added joint support but Fish Oil isn't a bad idea in general, Controlled Labs Oximega has one of the highest concentrations of EPA/DHA the two main omega 3's that give fish oil it's benefit and it's reasonably priced as well.

Orange OxiMega (120 softgels)

Cycle support isn't overly needed into PCT and I'd use bulk Sodium DAA by AI over Activate Extreme as a natural test booster. There are study's on the efficiency of DAA boosting LH production to help kickstart natural test production in pct, and AI's Sodium version is more bioavailable then regular DAA.

 

[Bootstomper]

I'd run it 6 weeks instead of 4... Halo for me doesn't kick in til the end of week 3.

Since we're tossing out types of halo clones, Muscle Research/MR Supps Helladrol is the one for me because it's a proven favorite for many and includes 180 caps in one bottle (i.e. enough to run a full 6 weeks at 100mg+).

If you don't already know what NAC is, you should research TUDCA as well. TUDCA is the gold standard as far as liver support goes, but not a bad idea to have something with prostate/Blood pressure support as well.

BUT, if you already have AI Cycle support, that's not a bad supplement right there and should cover you for on cycle support (has NAC and milk thistle in it and all of the herbs that support what I mention above with prostate/bp support such as red yeast rice, saw palmetto, hawthorn berry, etc...)

I personally would add something else to PCT, but you might be okay with what you have.

My typical PCT consists of:
Forged PCT
Forma Stanzol
Test infusion, or Transform MHO Poppers, or Transform Methyl EAA
DAA
Choice of serm (I don't use a serm for helladrol solo cycles, but that's just personal preference... I come back just fine and bloods come back peachy keen)

 

[mich29]

looks like a solid setup basic to the point.

 

[nickb86]

I'd go with Halo Mass over Halocor, quality tested pure products.

Celtic Labs Halo Mass (60 capsules) - Discount Halo Mass Supplements!

I'd probably run it 75mg or higher the whole cycle 50 is a very low dose.

AI cycle support contains NAC, it's one of the better dosed old formula Cycle Supports. For the newer stuff you'd be looking at Anteaus Labs Talos or LGI Damage Control(this also contains tudca though not entirely needed for a mild oral like halo). Some of the ingredients of the old formula cycle supports have lacking evidence of effective protection.

Antaeus Labs Talos 2.0 (120 capsules) - Discount Talos Supplements!

Back pumps from Halo shouldn't be overly debilitating, but having taurine on hand isn't a bad idea.

Also Halo isn't as dry as something like Epi so I wouldn't be to hugely concerned with added joint support but Fish Oil isn't a bad idea in general, Controlled Labs Oximega has one of the highest concentrations of EPA/DHA the two main omega 3's that give fish oil it's benefit and it's reasonably priced as well.

Orange OxiMega (120 softgels)

Cycle support isn't overly needed into PCT and I'd use bulk Sodium DAA by AI over Activate Extreme as a natural test booster. There are study's on the efficiency of DAA boosting LH production to help kickstart natural test production in pct, and AI's Sodium version is more bioavailable then regular DAA.

Better yet go with helladrol from Mr supps over both of them and get more volume of product for your cash !!