need some help with tren-ace..

[brownchoclit]

hey guys..
just a quick back ground first.. i am 235lbs and around 15-17%body fat..i am 34 years old and i have been training for most of my adult life (almost 20 years). i've done around 5 pro hormone cycles and my last cycle was a test-e only (500mg/week). i will getting back on test-e very shortly. 3j's been on board helping with my diet for the last 8 months and my last test cycle (bulk) was awesome. now time to cut...

i've heard much about tren, to be honest it scares me much..but most people have awesome results from it. so i was wondering what a noob test-e/tren ace cycle would look like? what ancillaries would i need to run on-cycle? stuff like Ai's, caber,prami etc and their dosages would be really helpful...

my original plan was to blast and cruise on test-e alone for 1 year...i know most people would say this would be pointless..but i just wanted to keep simple. but recently i've come into a position where i will be able to aquire some tren....and since i have been planning to cut..i was wondering how the tren would work...but tren really scares me..

any help or info would be gladly appreciated...

 

[Boss56]

I did a 14 wk test e cycle and gained about 30 lbs not all muscle though. Recently i got a hold of some tren ace. I will run it at 300 mg and test prop 200 per week. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will be .25 adex ed and post cycle therapy (pct) will be clomid 50,50,50,50 and nolva 20,20,10,10. I might run gh 2,iu ed for 1 month before to maximize gains. Hope that helps.

 

[brownchoclit]

thanks for the feedback boss..i bulked with test-e only with my last cycle and gained 35lbs (not all muscle)..but now after post cycle therapy (pct) i only lost around 7-8lbs..so its time to cut now. do you think i can get away with a lower weekly tren dose? i am not looking for crazy gains etc....just worried about the sides... thanks..

 

[Warren916]

So your willing to run a 12 month course of test-e, cause possible permanent shut down, but your afraid of tren?? Doesnt really make sense, what exactly are you afraid of??

If i were you, id have on hand..

Cabergoline
Letrozole

Those are your two main ancilleries for a cycle like that.

And of course post cycle therapy (pct) stuff unless you plan on HRT..

 

[Boss56]

I myself not looking for great gains. 300 tren ace per wk is considered low also. But you never no how your body reacts to a compound unless try it. This will be my first tren ace cycle the only reason i run test is so i can have some libido left. i think as long as you take good precautions by using the right Aromatase inhibitor (AI) the sides will be minimal. When i ran the test e cycle i had severe acne on my back, chest, and shoulders. The reason was because i did not run any Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Just do research and plan it out like the same things you did with your other cycles. Good luck

 

[darkside06]

350-400mg a week of tren ace is a good starting point. my first cycle with tren i ran both Tren ace and test prop for 350wk on both and had great results.

 

[R1rider]

ya i agree, start with 3-400mg/week of tren ace, bump up the dose after a few weeks if needed

dont run the tren ace more than 8-10 weeks

and have letro and caber or parmi on hand

tren is awesome and nothing to be scared off, just find a dose that is right for you with the least sides. since your in south east asia, i would not run tren till the fall. it will make you sweat a lot.......

 

[brownchoclit]

@warren..well what i am most afraid of is cardiovascular health and gyno. doctors here do not have experience treating patients that are on AAS. i know there is a risk with running test-e for such a long time..but the risks are minimal compared some of the sides tren can and have caused. please correct me if i am wrong...i am here to learn..so any advice is appreciated.

@boss...i got bad acne on my back also..actually i still have some left over from the last cycle..would you happen to have a link or anything that would explain how an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle would help with this?

@r1rider..its warm here all year round chief hehe..i am sweating my ass off whilst typing this actually heh

would a test-e dose of 250mg/week be ok while on tren?

i have already started on 500mg test/week...i will be getting the tren only in 4 weeks time..at that point can i drop the test dose to 250mg and add in tren @300-400mg/week?

thanks again to everyone who took the time to help out and reply to this thread..

 

[Chi23]

when you add in the tren ace it needs to be injected more frequently than test e. you need to do atleast EOD,

 

[mdella89]

Run tren higher, test lower. you get less side effects in my experience.

350 test prop 420 tren ace.. maybe even lower the test a bit more but thats what im currently on and recomping nicely