Need urgent help and advice with my cutting stack!!!! Please help me out

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It's my first thread on here but i need the most technical advice i can get... I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF READING BUT HELP A BROTHER OUT! please

I've been doing a lot research into cutting stacks and cycles... and I'm down to my ultimate 4 WEEKS of cutting.. i know it's alot pressure to put all these supps together in a concetrated 4 weeks but that's all i have left and after that i'm going get off all of this except for the protein the glutamine and BCAA'S (I HAVE BEEN CUTTING FOR 12 WEEKS) so please don't say you can't get cut in 4 weeks.. And i have been doing a lot of hard training and taking a decent diet.. I just need help or confirmation with my stacking please help me out!

HERE'S MY CURRENT DETAILS (my goal is to get down to about 10% or lower) in the next 3-4 weeks (help me out on where i can improve or tell me i'm on the right track) cheers

I'm 5"8 or 173 cms
23 years
and 162 pounds or 73 kilos at 13.5% body fat (not so much weight in my legs (need a bit of work) but there's always next year to get em bigger)

For these last 4 weeks I decided to hit these supplements FOR MY ULTIMATE STACK!

Animal cuts,
multivitamin,
fishoil / flaxeed / carnitine (capsule),
Creatine,
JACK3D,
Clen,
Glutamine,
BCAA'S and ofcourse PROTEIN,
Also been told to stack winstrol and TEST PROp

This is what my Daily dose looks like at the moments

ANIMAL PAK FIRST THING IN THE MORNING + CLENBUTEROL! + fishoil flaxseed carnitine capsule - multivitamin
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10 MINUTES LATER 15 GRAM PROTEIN SHAKE WITH 5 GRAMS GLUTAMINE
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BREAKFAST (20-30 Mins after my animal pack)
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THEN ABOUT 1 HOUR TO 1 AND HALF HOURS LATER
I'LL TAKE JACK3D (NO EXPLODE) + 4 BCAA CAPS + CREATINE 5GRAMS (PREWORK OUT) ''would stack the winstrol and TEST here if i'm going to go through with it''
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(POST WORKOUT) SHAKE WITH WITH 3 EGG WHITES + 3-4 BCAA'S AND GLUTAMINE
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LUNCH
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DINNNER
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BEFORE BED TAKE ANOTHER 5G GLUTAMINE
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I know alot of people say staking creatine with Animal cuts is a silly (because of diuretic) , but i'm trying to keep as much mass as possible. I read if your drink enough water (about 5 liters a day) your not going to inhibit the effects of running creatine with the Animal cuts at the same time. The bodybuilder who hooked me up (Mr Mexico) told me this ''stack'' was a guaranteed way to cut.. and retain my muscle mass if not gain a little bit of lean muscle.

IN COMBINATION WITH MY SUPPS...
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....This is what my daily MEAL PLAN is looking like:

1 oats wid nuts n mix ur protein in oats in water
2. 5 egg whites n one yolk
3. chicken breast with vegie
4. Ground turkey breast with vegies
5 tuna in spring water with sweet poatoe one scoop peanut butter
6. Chicken breast with salad or omelet

DAILY WATER INTAKE RANGES from 3 - 6 LITRES
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AND THIS IS HOW MY TRAINING / CUTTING PROGRAM IS LOOKING LIKE FOR THESE NEXT 3-4 WEEKS:

MON: Heavy lifting chest/back + FOLLOWED BY INTERVAL CARDIO 15-20 MIN (should i take my shake before the cardio?)

TUES: Lactate-inducing workout 1 + 20-30 minutes of steady-state aerobic work

WED: OFF

THURS: Heavy lifting quads/hams -(no cardio)

FRI: OFF

SAT: Lactate-inducing workout 2 + 20-30 minutes of steady-state aerobic work

SUN: OFF
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Now for my questions and my thoughts...

Anywhere i should improve this (WORK out routine and/or supps)?
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Also i'm on 3 week clen cycle (started from 40mcg going to hit 100-120mcg and come back down to 40mcg within 3 weeks) whilst taking Animal cuts is that dangerous? or should i just be take caution about timing of when i'm taking the Clen and Animal Cuts Pak? I just tried it today (felt a litte bit high in the heart a bit scared to be honest should) i just take the stims out of the animals cuts when i'm taking Clen in the morning?
(red pill) because it would be a good 5 hours or more after i took my first Animal cut + clen together...?
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And i was recommend to start a cycle of creatine (to keep my muscle mass i know glutamine helps as well but i was high recommended this even though i'm cutting)... do you really think it's going to counter act the results of the ''Animal cuts" or is it a good way to keep some muscle mass.. Because after all is just allowing my cells to increase water volume and with sufficient water i should satisfy both supplements?
Also because i'm starting a creatine cycle should i do the loading phase (would it be to much creatine to cut with) or just stick to taking 5 grams because i'm just looking to assist my maintenance of muscle
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And BECAUSE I'M DOING CLEN WITH ANIMAL PAK IN THE MORNINGS AND I TRAIN ABOUT 2 HOURS LATER.. U THINK TAKING JACK3D is really such a bad idea? (I know jacked contains some creatine but not so much)
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Should i take up to 30 grams of glutamine daily instead of the current 15 grams i'm taking due to intensity of these next 3-4 weeks?
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ALL in ALL if i stick to this PLAN you think any of these supps are going to counteract or 'F**K ME UP?"" and yes I've read all the **** about Clen and stress on the heart rate and receptors
.. but i think there is a fine science between each supplement and how they are metabolized in the body therefore with right timing and a good diet and the right precautions all of this can flow in your system safely and successfully (thats just my 2 cents and what i've concluded from to many ****ing hours of reading and advise)

Note: I no i should NOT NECESSARILY be hitting up all these supplements with my weight an age.. but i just have a deadline to meet and after that I'm going to get on a very neutral (natural) plan afterwoulds!

Also please don't tell me whether i need to save these supplements for later because i ONLY HAVE 4 WEEKS TO USE THEM ALL and i can't take them into the country i'm going to.. but if some are really bad to combine then let me know and i'll give em to the neighbours son "P

PEACE & LOVE,
PLEASE help a brother out as soon as you can
cheers..
 
Let's make this simple for 4 weeks:
-No supplements (forget all that crap)
-Clen is OK
-Eat only tuna, green veggies and water (all you want)
-Do NOT lift heavy. Only high-rep pump sets & super sets
-Cardio 45 minutes on off days
THIS WILL SHRED YOU FASTER THAN ANYTHING you have proposed.
 
Welcome.

Enjoyed the thesarsus.

Ur no where near doing AAS..

And as indicated above it s not all the various crap you put in your body but the aerobics you do and food you take in.

U going for the underwear model look or a gay porn candidate I presume ? Mr. Somalia ?

(lol...easy I m fucking with you..look at my HIV poster child avi )

Throw up a photo..
 
cheers for the advice bras

cheers for the advice bra's
I know i'm not a huge cunt or anything and yeah man you're right i'm going For Mr somalia 2011... :p lol

Narh i just gotta get into form before going overseas.. And then i'll go hard for a couple of months and see how many kilos i can pack on..

i gotta train my legs a bit harder and shit not holdin so much weight there.. and got my top part of my abs coming out.. to be honest i just wanted to gain a little bit of muscle through out these next weeks and smack off like a kilo or two of fat ... don't have that much on me at all..

but ur all thinking just tuna & veggies.. my meal plan isn't so bad is it?

and i'm still sure about stickin on with the creatine, glutamine and BCAA'S..

peace and no i'm not a gay cunt (not that theres anything wrong with that)

also i bought this animal CUTS pak so i might aswell finish it....
i was just a bit freaked out yesterday cause i ran the Animal cuts with 60mcg of clen and my heart was fucking hurting..
but i don't think it's so dangerous..

what do u guys reckon? and thoughts on fastned aerobic cardio for 30 mins in the morning.. or Interval cardio for 15 mins with a shot glutamine before hand to prevent muscle break down... (and no the glutamine won't defeat the purpose of morning high intensity cardio because i should be creating a afterburn effect or some shit)

or just LISS cardio after my workouts?
 
FUCK wrote the WRONG THING UP TOP! I GOT MY BODY FAT MEASURED PROPERLY SITTING ON 11% @ 73 KILOS...

just stick to the tuna and green veggies.. any other recommendations?
 
FUCK wrote the WRONG THING UP TOP! I GOT MY BODY FAT MEASURED PROPERLY SITTING ON 11% @ 73 KILOS...

just stick to the tuna and green veggies.. any other recommendations?


Ditch cutting. There is no way you should be cutting at 162 lbs. I say bulk up. Throw in a lot more carbs in there, you have no carbs at all. Brown rice, oats, whole wheat pasta, sweet potato...add good amounts of this to all of your meals. Make your post workout meal you biggest. Don't worry about cycling right now...focus on this first. Trust me, it will be well worth it for you. Cycling now would be a waste because I guarantee you have a lot of natural room for growth.
 
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