New labs AND 20 gauge needles

[synonymous]

The new labs are good IMO:

Free T: 26 (No reference range give but doc said I should be between 10-15. Previouse score was 46 so it did drop)

Total T: 640 (131-871)

E2: 35 (Dropped from 64 I believe.)

Doc asked me to try 20 gauge 1.5 inch pins for glutes to ensure the oil gets to the muscle. Not sure if this is the best gauge but he said that was as long as he could get them. Otherwise I'm gonna have to order some if the Japan Ministry of Health lets me. It's illegal to buy needles except from a doctor.

Are there longer 23 gauge needles?

 

[YODATRON]

The new labs are good IMO:

Free T: 26 (No reference range give but doc said I should be between 10-15. Previouse score was 46 so it did drop)

Total T: 640 (131-871)

E2: 35 (Dropped from 64 I believe.)

Doc asked me to try 20 gauge 1.5 inch pins for glutes to ensure the oil gets to the muscle. Not sure if this is the best gauge but he said that was as long as he could get them. Otherwise I'm gonna have to order some if the Japan Ministry of Health lets me. It's illegal to buy needles except from a doctor.

Are there longer 23 gauge needles?

yes I use 1.5 inch 23 gauge for my glutes. can you order them from an outside source?

 

[synonymous]

I have to find a source, then I have to ask Japan's Ministry of Health if they will allow me to import them. Otherwise, I'm not sure what the penalties would be. Japan can be very weird. Steroids, legal. Needles, illegal.

 

[YODATRON]

Ohhh wow that is wierd but I hope it works out for you bro there are lots of medical suppliers online I am sure you will be good to find some cheers and goodluck

 

[halfwit]

You really don't want to inject with 20 gauge needles. Like really, really don't. You'll build up a ton of scar tissue very quickly and the injections are going to be pretty uncomfortable to say the least.

I recommend two things: 25g syringes at 1-1.5" (unless you are only pinning the glutes and you're above 25% body fat a 1" is fine) and 20g needles to draw the oil into the syringe. Note: you can use the 20g syringes he is ordering, but also get 25g 1" needles to actually inject.

The fact that your doc is recommending 20g pins to inject worries me a bit. Hopefully he is better informed on the other aspects of trt than needle selection...

My .02c

 

[synonymous]

My body fat percent is above 25%. I need longer needles. The longest he has is 1.5 inches that are 20 gauge. I use 23 gauge 1 inch pins for delts which haven't been an issue but they aren't reaching muscle tissue in quads or glutes, thus the need for longer needles...until I can drop below 20% bodyfat (this years goal)

 

[Megatron28]

My body fat percent is above 25%. I need longer needles. The longest he has is 1.5 inches that are 20 gauge. I use 23 gauge 1 inch pins for delts which haven't been an issue but they aren't reaching muscle tissue in quads or glutes, thus the need for longer needles...until I can drop below 20% bodyfat (this years goal)

Are you sure 1" is not long enough to reach your muscle in your quads and glutes? Especially quads.

What is your height and weight?

And have you tried the ventroglute instead of the flutes? Easier to reach and you probably don't have as much body fat there.

 

[oldmusclemike]

You really don't want to inject with 20 gauge needles. Like really, really don't. You'll build up a ton of scar tissue very quickly and the injections are going to be pretty uncomfortable to say the least.

I recommend two things: 25g syringes at 1-1.5" (unless you are only pinning the glutes and you're above 25% body fat a 1" is fine) and 20g needles to draw the oil into the syringe. Note: you can use the 20g syringes he is ordering, but also get 25g 1" needles to actually inject.

The fact that your doc is recommending 20g pins to inject worries me a bit. Hopefully he is better informed on the other aspects of trt than needle selection...

My .02c

Holy crapper Ouch .... This ^^^^^^ scare tissue will certainly shorten your glute career. Get some 23g 1" or even 22G 1-1/2" I used to use them a lot and that can start to bite your ass. Good luck

 

[synonymous]

I'm 181cm tall, 152kg, 32% bodyfat.

When I flex my quads, I can see and feel the muscle. My quads are quite large. But on the outside and middle part, my dermatologist says that it goes: epidermis, dermis, fatty tissue, muscle. I may be stopping around the fatty tissue before entering the muscle or just barely entering the muscle and having the test 'migrate'

I'll take some pictures tonight. My bf% might be off. I did powerlifting for about 8 years and only last year started body recomp training. My weight may have dropped as well. I'm starting tohave to deal with loose skin as well, another problem to add to my list.