New Member. Long Time Lifter. 1st Cycle.

[Rocky33]

Whats going on guys? Although I am sure there is often preconceived notions with many new members I've been in the game for an awful long time. I am a member on my other boards under a different username... mainly because I don't want people to know what I am doing :/ Perhaps I shouldn't be concerned what others think... on the other hand it could also become a headache for me if others found out.

I've been lifting now for over ten years... consistently. I've studied nutrition in college and have what I consider an above average knowledge of this sport... this however does NOT mean I am well versed in anabolics. Although I have done my research and am now comfortable doing my first cycle I have no problem admitting there is still a lot for me to learn. Hell, if I knew everything there was to know about anabolics I'd more than likely not be posting here.

Stats: 24yo.
5"7'
165lbs
8% bf
Super small joints which allow me to looks larger than I am.

I feel as if I have nearly reached my genetic potential (I am sure I could go a little more but I have busted my ass for 10+ years now) and thus am stepping it up with anabolics.



THE DETAILS OF WHAT I WILL BE DOING!

I will be running a Halo-Plex, Sustanon 350 bridge. Halo-Plex will be run for 4 weeks. I understand completely that this compound hits its sweet spot at 5-6 weeks but unfortunately I have to travel a lot during that time period and don't feel comfortable bringing it on the plane with me... so 4 weeks will have to do. In reality it will be 4 1/2 weeks just about 5 weeks.

I have written my plan out on paper as this was easier for me to get my point across to you guys, it also serves as a nice visual for me to follow throughout my 22 total weeks.

Please take a look. What you will see is I will be running Halo-Plex the first week at 25mg in the AM and 25mg in the PM, 4 hours spaced out from my CEL Cycle Assist. Week 2 - 4+ I will run 50mg in the AM and 25mg in the PM. From my research I have learned that because of the compounds half-life its most beneficial to take the largest dose in the AM.

I will also be running 350mg/1ml of Sustanon 1x per week from week 1- week 10. Again, unfortunately due to my schedule this summer it will be difficult to take Sus every 5 days like many do... I will have to do 1x per week.

QUESTION ONE: BECAUSE OF MY TRAVELING SCHEDULE ONLY ALLOWING ME TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SUS 1x PER WEEK, SHOULD I TAKE 1.5ML/525MG OF SUS 1x PER WEEK OR WILL 1ML/350MG OF SUS 1x PER WEEK BE SUFFICIENT FOR MY FIRST CYCLE?

QUESTION TWO: I KNOW THAT WHEN COMING OFF YOU WANT TO START YOUR HCG THERAPY WHEN YOUR LEVELS HAVE DROPPED SOMEWHERE NEAR 200. WITH SUS HAVING CYP IN IT AND CYP HAVING A LONGER HALFLIFE, AROUND 7 DAYS I BELIEVE, AT 350MG MY LEVELS WOULD RETURN TO BELOW 200 WITH ONLY A WEEK OFF. IS THE BEST PLAN AT 350MG PER WEEK OF SUS TO START MY HCG WITH ONLY 1 WEEK OFF? AS YOU CAN SEE IN MY PICTURE ON WEEK 11 I HAVE EVERYTHING OFF. WEEK 12 I HAVE OFF? AS I AM CURIOUS IF I SHOULD TAKE 2 WEEKS OFF OR JUST 1. IF I TAKE 525MG PER WEEK RATHER THAN 350MG I WILL OBVIOUSLY NEED TO TAKE 2 WEEKS OFF.

QUESTION THREE: AND I AM SURE MANY OF YOU ARE TIRED OF HEARING THIS QUESTION, BUT AM I MISSING ANYTHING FOR MY PCT?

What I have is 500ius of HCG everyday for 10 days after the break of all compounds. Then 4 days off of HCG and all compounds.

Once week two starts I being my SERMs and my Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Clomid will be run as 50/50/50/50 and Nolva run as 20/20/10/10/10/10. My Aromatase inhibitor (AI) Will be Aromasin at 25mg ED for 6 weeks. Another question I have is should I run Aromasin for an additional two weeks after I finish my SERMs at 12.5mg ED? Or will it be more than sufficient to only run it along side my SERMs for the 6 weeks?


I can't thank you guys enough!!!

Below if my cycle outline:
postimage.org/image/9gsirklrp/

-Rocky

 

[baaa]

For optimal preservation of testicular function during cycle, use 100iu hCG ED starting 3 days after your first AAS dose. Drop the hCG a week before the AAS clear the system. For example, you would drop hCG a week after your last Testosterone Enanthate shot. Or, if you are ending the cycle with orals, you would drop the hCG a week before your last oral dose. This will allow for a sudden and even drop in hormone levels, while initiating LH and FSH production from the pituitary, making for a seamless recovery.

Source: Eric M. Potratz

Also, from what i've learned you should do a test only cycle to see how your body reacts before adding other compounds so you can pinpoint the sides to one particular drug, and test is the base of all cycles.

You also might want to do further research on the Sustanon 350 because i heard that there was no such thing as 350... but you might know more about it.

you shouldn't run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) PCT, your nolva should take care of that. i would start off with a lower dose than 25mg of aromasin also, maybe 6.25 ED and bump up from there.

hope that helps

 

[juice44]

you should drop the aromasin and replace it with armidex... aromasin is a steroid in itself and you dont want to be one a steroid during pct... its a type II Aromatase inhibitor (AI), while armidex is a type I...

check this link out Aromasin-Nolvadex PCT

 

[brother bundy]

you gotta be the 30th guy in his early 20s this week who thinks they reached there "genetic potential" no fuckin way ,that dont mean I think u should not use steroids just dont use that lame ass excuse.

 

[jon emberlin]

you gotta be the 30th guy in his early 20s this week who thinks they reached there "genetic potential" no fuckin way ,that dont mean I think u should not use steroids just dont use that lame ass excuse.

I like this!!

 

[Rocky33]

I know ideally hcg should be run throughout but like I said due to my summers being hectic with traveling I can't really take the hcg until the end when I know I'll definitely be home.

This is another reason why I choose sus because it can be once a week rather than ED or eod.

From my research I think this post cycle therapy (pct) should be fine since its not an overboard cycle.

Any other suggestions?

 

[Rocky33]

you gotta be the 30th guy in his early 20s this week who thinks they reached there "genetic potential" no fuckin way ,that dont mean I think u should not use steroids just dont use that lame ass excuse.

I would agree with you. I do have some progress to go but I did plateau early. I'm not much bigger than what I was 5 years ago.

I'll have to take some new pictures and post them up.

 

[Rocky33]

Just to avoid flames I am well aware at how incredibly crappy the quality of this picture is. This was today right after 35 minutes of cardio, not really any pump going on. I just walked on treadmill at a full incline.

This is only to give you guys SOME sort of idea of where I am currently at... albeit the horrendous quality.

I was the last person in the gym and my partner wasn't with me so I had to take the picture myself ... I should keep my day job to say the least :/

postimage.org/image/kwx8iyq9b/

 

[DADAWG]

i realize your 5-7 but 165 pounds is NOT your genetic potential. if your dead set on running a cycle stick to test ONLY . IF you insist on sustanon run it at least 12 weeks. i prefer test eth or cyp.
do your self a favor and post in the diet forum here at ology and get diet input from the mod 3J .

 

[Rocky33]

i realize your 5-7 but 165 pounds is NOT your genetic potential. if your dead set on running a cycle stick to test ONLY . IF you insist on sustanon run it at least 12 weeks. i prefer test eth or cyp.
do your self a favor and post in the diet forum here at ology and get diet input from the mod 3J .

Thanks for the input sir. Why do you prefer cyp over sus? I was leaning towards sus because of less water retention but I know that can be controlled with an AI.

 

[DADAWG]

Thanks for the input sir. Why do you prefer cyp over sus? I was leaning towards sus because of less water retention but I know that can be controlled with an AI.

sustanon does NOT cause less water retention . testosterone causes water retention and it doesnt matter if the ester is cyp, eth,prop , or a mixture of test esters like sustanon has . its the test that causes the retention and sustanon has several test esters.

 

[Rocky33]

sustanon does NOT cause less water retention . testosterone causes water retention and it doesnt matter if the ester is cyp, eth,prop , or a mixture of test esters like sustanon has . its the test that causes the retention and sustanon has several test esters.

Thanks for the help DD. After some research I have decided to run Cyp250 from GenShi.

Thanks again for the help!

 

[crazyfmike]

you gotta be the 30th guy in his early 20s this week who thinks they reached there "genetic potential" no fuckin way ,that dont mean I think u should not use steroids just dont use that lame ass excuse.

No shit to that Brother Bundy!

I made gains until I was 40 fucking 2!!

 

[Jack Tors]

No shit to that Brother Bundy!

I made gains until I was 40 fucking 2!!

haha
love this guy

i was competitively powerlifting. benching 365 and deadlifting 620, squating 600 natty before it touched the sauce at 31. im not opposed to starting early just stfu with that genetic potential shit.

 

[Rocky33]

Thanks again for all the help guys. I will be getting some blood work done within the next couple weeks before starting. I am thinking about possibly posting a log on here with all details including diet/macros, support supps, supps, dosages, pics etc.

Cheers!

 

[crazyfmike]

Thanks again for all the help guys. I will be getting some blood work done within the next couple weeks before starting. I am thinking about possibly posting a log on here with all details including diet/macros, support supps, supps, dosages, pics etc.

Cheers!

Good sport Bro! We want the best for you.

Cutting your training in half is an option that sounds like WTF but 80% of time this results in the body "catching up" and grown again. Sometime just staying out of the guy for 3 weeks produces the same effect.

Keep coming back man, lots of good stuff to try before the juice.

 

[Rocky33]

Good sport Bro! We want the best for you.

Cutting your training in half is an option that sounds like WTF but 80% of time this results in the body "catching up" and grown again. Sometime just staying out of the guy for 3 weeks produces the same effect.

Keep coming back man, lots of good stuff to try before the juice.

Cruise periods or total breaks are definitely needed. I generally do a cruise period, essentially just going through the motions without pushing myself once every 6 weeks.

As much as I do this to stay in shape the main reason is for my sanity and to keep a clear head. I'd be lost if I took off from the gym completely for a week so I've adopted the idea of cruise weeks, i.e. light weeks without pushing myself.

 

[ryand]

Good sport Bro! We want the best for you.

Cutting your training in half is an option that sounds like WTF but 80% of time this results in the body "catching up" and grown again. Sometime just staying out of the guy for 3 weeks produces the same effect.

Keep coming back man, lots of good stuff to try before the juice.

How often have you taken breaks from training in the past? and for how long? I've been reading articles recently about this...I've taken a week off in the past.

 

[Rocky33]

Like I stated above I was looking at GenShi labs for the Cyp. I've lurked around and for the most part only seen positive reviews. Something I've picked up on is that no pharm is going to have all positive reviews, but thats almost anything in life; i.e. there is always one person who isn't satisfied.

However, my concern is I ran across a thread stating that GenShi labs is crashing, going downhill, closing etc, etc, etc... Is their quality declining or is it safe to say their products are still decent for the most part?

I've looked at Cyp from the following labs,
-Dragon Pharma
-Kalpa Pharmaceuticals
-Balkan Pharmaceuticals
-GenShi Labs
-Opiox Pharma

and my conslusion is that GenShi seems to be the best choice.

My question being, with all the hoo rah of the lab having problems, is GenShi labs gtg? Or is one of the others I listed a better choice?

Thanks again gentlemen.

 

[ryand]

No shit to that Brother Bundy!

I made gains until I was 40 fucking 2!!

I reached my genetic potential at 18 and a half.