Next Cycle Help

[Cyrus]

ok i barely use juice, im 21, 5'5" 155 pounds, about 15% BF, genetics not on my side, always been fat, actually more like 20% all my life, finally brought it down with dnp and t3 and some dieting. so now i want to bring it down to 9% BF as i dont think i will need to get lower, i am not going to compete. i have a plan for a cycle, and i do plan on adding muscle while i diet down because i did it 6 months ago, i gained 5 pounds of muscle over like 4-6 weeks, but with money always being an issue, my cycles are always half-assed. anyway, this is the plan:

100mg short acting test, either prop or suspension
30mg dbol per day
50mg proviron per day
75mcg t3 per day, tapering up to 100mcg and down but staying mostly at 75mcg
.5mg arimidex per day
(maybe 80mcg clen per day, but never used it, i dont need no heart problems since i heard it feels like ephedrine)

OK the dbol is in there because i feel my CNS stimulated with it, and im always a tired mother fucker i swear i hate it, i think im deficient with some vitamins or some shit, i can sleep all day. the other reason, is the reduced appetite. also, i never dieted with dbol, but im sure it will help building muscle while i drop bodyfat.

about the test, i have access to two items that i want to try:
AGOVIRON DEPOT = 50mg/2ml TEST ISOBUTYRATE SUSPENDED IN WATER
TESTOPIN = 200mg/2ml TEST PROPIONATE (DISSOLVED IN OIL OF COURSE)

which would you go with? the water based is twice as much as the prop and the injections are 4 times as much volume (ie. the agoviron is 25mg/ml and the prop is 100mg/ml. i love water-based test, but this one has an ester up to 6 days! what is this then? water-based enanthate? would it be faster than the prop because its water-based? im looking for the faster-acting type, but how good is testopin if i decided to go with it?

as for the diet, im going to carb wave it at 50,50,50,100,100,100,300 REPEAT. fat low like 1 tbsp flaxseed oil and 2 yolks and the fat in my eye of round steak, etc. protein will be 1.5-2.0g per pound of bodyweight.

any suggestions or input is appreciated. im ready to begin about the first of november. thank you.

 

[Cyrus]

bump

 

[bronco944]

well if your tryingto cut id keep it simple.
75 mg's prop ed
50 mg's Winstrol (winny) ed

or

75 mg's prop ed
75 mg's tren ed

you can add clen 2 weeks on 2 off
t3 you might wanna research a little more first. you should rapidly taper up to max dose, maintain for a while then slowly taper back off

 

[Cyrus]

well ive used t3 now for 3 years so i know how to use it. as for test, i am going with virormones actually so it will be 100mg EOD or 100mg ED. eod seems too low so i guess ed will be it. i only weigh 155 at 5'5", and 15% BF i barely use juice so when i do, i want to make it an effective cycle. i always get better development with each cycle. this time around i plan to get down to 9% BF and add muscle at the same time so thats why i chose to do 100mg test prop ED.

as for tren, i dont know anyone who has it, and i wont make my own anymore after using it twice and always getting sick. also, no Winstrol (winny) for me, hairloss problem, too expensive, and wont do anything for me at 15% BF. i know test is best to use, so i wonder why everyone uses all these other drugs, nothing is better than test, even fina, that shit BTW, never did its magic, i did 75mg ED sometimes 112mg ED and after week 4 i quit. the test, arimidex, proviron, and t3 is already $1k so its not simple at all. i wish it was.

 

[bronco944]

i havea hard time believing you cant find tren but can get viromones. anyways, most will disagree with me here but id say fuck it do 100 mg's prop ed. i find Winstrol (winny) is usualy cheaper than proviron, and i dont realy think you need the proviron but to each his own. since your already planning on spending over a grand, why not start some gh. you wond need any clen or t3 with that to burn fat and you can continue taking it as long as you can afford. the price has come down a lot altely.
100 mg's prop ed and gh with a good diet will get you ripped in no time.

 

[Cyrus]

gh is too expensive though, and i dont want the sides from it. do u think 100mg prop eod would be enough?

 

[panteracfh]

why don't youjust run 150mg prop EOD?

 

[Cyrus]

i can do that and store the other 1cc for the next shot, but do you guys think 100mg ED is too much? i mean, ive done it before with testolents but that test killed my sex drive for some reason. good test though.

as for the proviron, it makes my cycle really effective. i noticed that last time. so from now on, the base of all my cycles will be test, arimidex, proviron, and t3 because i will use it even bulking at 25mcg ed.

 

[rpwhit777]

wheter or not you want to gain weight or drop weight your diet will be key..... The prop/ proviron combo, if you have no acces to tren, might be good at preserving muscle mass while trying to cut.....Good Luck!!!

 

[Cyrus]

bump. any other suggestions? thanks.

 

[JohnnyB]

HGH for a 21 year old, that not a good idea. I think you should know more about the side effect of a drug before giving advice or suggesting that someone use it.

JohnnyB

 

[bronco944]

HGH for a 21 year old, that not a good idea. I think you should know more about the side effect of a drug before giving advice or suggesting that someone use it.

JohnnyB

please explain why gh would be bad for a 21 y/o. im 21 and if i could afford to use it long enough id be on it right now. is golfer18 still around. he was on gh at like 19 i believe, no one said shit to him about it. id like to hear what some vets who have used gh think about using it at a younger age.

 

[Cyrus]

i would never use it, has nothing to do with age. but i dont want the bone enlargement (forehead, jaw), gh gut, and water retention in the face, you ever see some pics of the pros, they are ripped with fat faces! the whole point of me doing this is to have a real lean face, i dont need to get that far into bodybuilding so i'll stick with just the juice. maybe slin one day.