Noob Dbol question

I dont like oral only cycles.

ether pin atlast an Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) amount of test with the dbol or dont do anythign at all is my op.
and NO dont stack Winstrol (winny) and dbol at same time.
 
So 6 out of 7 say its a no-no, why is it that the jaja208's reply hits me right on the money, 200 pounds is where i wanna be and thats about the gains he got..... I guess whenever you want something you lean towards that opinion LOL but like I said whatever I do when I do it I want to do it right and everyone elses response just seemed more informed
 
Oh, and you guys must all be right he was trying to charge me 600 for the Winstrol (winny) and dbol, I knew he was trying to make some money but i wanted to know if he was heading me down the right path. I was actually planning to order em online if I wouldve got good feedback from the research and forums.
 
Oh, and you guys must all be right he was trying to charge me 600 for the Winstrol (winny) and dbol, I knew he was trying to make some money but i wanted to know if he was heading me down the right path. I was actually planning to order em online if I wouldve got good feedback from the research and forums.

600$ is ass raping man. hes not even giving you a common curtsy spit job when he's doing it either. holy hell!!!! i paid not even a fraction of that of my dbol an Winstrol (winny). thats not right man. what he is doing to you is just highway robbery. a cycle of dbol, with a test pill of some sort, if your not going to do inject, with post cycle therapy (pct) products should run only a third of that. i would slap a man in his face if he said that to me
 
So after reading through everyone's replies, it seems like if i have a good post cycle therapy (pct) plan with the dbol you guys don't think its worth doing a ten week cycle run with out the test?
 
dbol you should only do 6weeks. 8 weeks maybe MAX, but if your going to do a 10 week. your going to need that test. i wouldnt run dbol that long. ive read people doing 12 weeks on it and its just pointless in my opinion. dont take me 100% on this cause i know everyone is different with gear. but 6-8weeks is the dying period of it. thats when the drop off usually hits. alot of people wont see anymore huge gains. and alot of the weight from that point on will be nothing but water.
 
^^agreed, bro if you are looking for someone to tell you, 'yeah its good, go for it', probably wont happen on here, test is the foundation of any cycle, you always want to keep a good balance of test/dht/estrogen, crushing any one of those will hurt your cycle...obviously lower estro is good, but too low not so great
 
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