Not gaining on 12 weeks tren ace 200mg

[Lakers]

Im not making any weight gains.I took before and after pictures and my body does look different. However,the scale says otherwise. Any advice please?

 

[alphabravo]

Tren is known to have some effects on dropping BF... maybe you've replaced some BF with lean mass there for you don't see much difference in the scale but do within your photos.

Other than that we would need more info, are you running a test base and what dose? How many calories?

 

[Gainjin260]

The obvious answer is that you're running bunk gear.
How are the sides?
What does the scale say? Have you ramped up calories during the last 12 weeks?
What else are you running with the tren?
Provide full cycle details along with pre cycle stats and current. Otherwise we can only guess

 

[Milton]

smells like bunk gear.

 

[49ER]

200 is on the very low end if you look "different" as in better maybe its working also could be underdosed. 100mg eod is the best cycle even for beginners. Not everyone gains weight but within a week you will look bigger and way better.

 

[Roush]

how long have you been on it and whats your diet like? Tren does not aromatize, so your not going to get a big jump in initial weight gain from water retention like other compounds (however you will get some intercellular water in the muscle , but we are talking a couple pounds is all).

you can cut on Tren , you can bulk on Tren . depends on you diet

 

[alphabravo]

how long have you been on it and whats your diet like? Tren does not aromatize, so your not going to get a big jump in initial weight gain from water retention like other compounds (however you will get some intercellular water in the muscle , but we are talking a couple pounds is all).

you can cut on Tren , you can bulk on Tren . depends on you diet

Based on the title I assumed he was at a full 12 week run... hopefully he returns with more info. I think everyone has made some valid points about what it could be, obviously bunk gear wonders the top of the list or under dosed which would screw him based on the low dose already chosen (not knowing you for using tren at low doses either), so the change in photos may of been just natural for all we know. Or is he shut down from running it solo? Really curious myself as to what's going on here and would like to hear more.

Might as well have posted the before and after pics... I'm sure the guys who've been doing this stuff for years on end could tell you if your results look on par to the cycle.

 

[Lakers]

how long have you been on it and whats your diet like? Tren does not aromatize, so your not going to get a big jump in initial weight gain from water retention like other compounds (however you will get some intercellular water in the muscle , but we are talking a couple pounds is all).

you can cut on Tren , you can bulk on Tren . depends on you diet

I kept cals at around 4000,Im almost 100% sure tren is real because my hair is shedding like a tree in fall weather. On test only my hair doesnt fall out too much. Also my strength has gone way through the roof.In pictures I weigh the same but I look much much skinnier now.

 

[Transporter]

Let's see the pics...

 

[oldmusclemike]

You haven't given us enough information. Bunk gear perhaps. Then again the mirror is gonna tell you the gains.
Ad was said you may be losing a of water and fat , then replacing with muscle. As said since you are using Tren a 19 nor it will NOT aromatize so you will not get that initial water n fluid gain.
For you post Q's. You have not given us all your stats as I said. What is your history stats before and now. What is you BF%. So if he mirror shows muscle gain then your BF% should of changes.
Need to know more .

In short intervals you can loose BF% and water , gain muscle mass and weigh the same. How many pounds of LMM do you think you or anyone would gain with this cycle of yours??

 

[luckypaul]

Im not making any weight gains.I took before and after pictures and my body does look different. However,the scale says otherwise. Any advice please?

What does the rest of your cycle look like? If you are not using test or some other AAS that will aromatize expect nothing but crashed E2.

 

[Lakers]

What does the rest of your cycle look like? If you are not using test or some other AAS that will aromatize expect nothing but crashed E2.

500mg test E.

 

[Lakers]

You haven't given us enough information. Bunk gear perhaps. Then again the mirror is gonna tell you the gains.
Ad was said you may be losing a of water and fat , then replacing with muscle. As said since you are using Tren a 19 nor it will NOT aromatize so you will not get that initial water n fluid gain.
For you post Q's. You have not given us all your stats as I said. What is your history stats before and now. What is you BF%. So if he mirror shows muscle gain then your BF% should of changes.
Need to know more .

In short intervals you can loose BF% and water , gain muscle mass and weigh the same. How many pounds of LMM do you think you or anyone would gain with this cycle of yours??

Probably 8-10lbs depending on the person I would say.People overestimate how much muscle they actually gain.

 

[BigSwolenPussy]

Im not making any weight gains.I took before and after pictures and my body does look different. However,the scale says otherwise.

Huh??

Im almost 100% sure tren is real because my hair is shedding like a tree in fall weather. On test only my hair doesnt fall out too much. Also my strength has gone way through the roof.In pictures I weigh the same but I look much much skinnier now.

Ok


What are you asking here?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Probably 8-10lbs depending on the person I would say.People overestimate how much muscle they actually gain.

I am getting a little confused with your Posts but let me just help you understand gains.

A man can only gain 15-20 LMM in a year. This is depending on age, length time (yrs) training, number of cycles and genetics. To put it simply it can and will eventually lead to diminishing returns. Like a pro Olympian gains maybe 3-5 lbs in a year. And a young sort of newbie can gain 15lbs in ONE (1) year of LMM. The rest is fat , water, glycogen and other...

Since you / me are not competing a certain amount of water is good and adds to your overall mass in which sometimes mass moves mass. Hence you can lift more. Then on and on.....


So you are not far off with the 8-10 LMM/ The low end is usually where you would be.
Good Luck

 

[oldmusclemike]

Please I don't understand why you have not posted your complete stats. Then also without that and a pic WTF. I stated in my other post you are not giving us enough info. Have you done BW and what is your BF% or did I miss that ?

Also please layout your outlined protocol for this cycle.

Hey man you have been here a few years and you should be aware of what and all info we like to get to know you n your cycle. Therefore why have you not started with your stats and your cycle lay out.

OP you have seen this people ask Q's and give us no info, Then it's like pulling teeth to get you guys to answer our Q's so we may HELP YOU. No bashing but common man?

 

[49ER]

Up the tren problem solved

 

[oldmusclemike]

Up the tren problem solved

9er always has the answer to life. If it gets tough up the Tren. If it's going good , make it better n up the Tren. If ya feel sick, up the Tren and work through it. If ya can't get a boner or orgasm ...up the Tren

 

[Roush]

well Tren does make your dick bigger . that right there solves about 98% of any of life's problems

 

[carverelli]

200 is on the very low end if you look "different" as in better maybe its working also could be underdosed. 100mg eod is the best cycle even for beginners. Not everyone gains weight but within a week you will look bigger and way better.

A week? You're dreaming..maybe a month