NPP or DECA-DURABOLIN....

Same shit different ester. If you want to run a short cycle then npp would be a good choice.

Some guys say that you bloat less on npp. Any truth to that? I want to go short esters next cycle and wanted to throw npp in there so I don't bloat a lot, but its bs I'll go with DECA.
 
I've used both. Never noticed any difference. A lot of people say u don't need an ai or hcg too. This is a weird thread coming from a rep. Don't you know what your pushing?
 
NPP weeks 1-6
Deca weeks 1-12+

Won't have to wait for that 6th week to really feel the deca kicking in if you front load with the npp
 
I've used both. Never noticed any difference. A lot of people say u don't need an ai or hcg too. This is a weird thread coming from a rep. Don't you know what your pushing?

Thanks for using half your wit to read my post :rolleyes: :D I sure do know what I'm pushing. It was only to get some educational discussion going.

If you check my last thread about THE LUMBER JACK cycle package, that PSL just came out with. Its discussed NPP+Masteron work GREAT together.

So I thought why not a discuss what people prefer. NPP or DECA?
 
I prefer to run a long cycle with some short esters mixed in at the beginning like
npp wk 1-5 test prop 1-4 tren ace 1-4
test e 1-15
Deca 1-13
tren e 1-15
I definately believe in kickstarting my oils and not just kickstarting your cycle with an oral
 
Thanks for using half your wit to read my post :rolleyes: :D I sure do know what I'm pushing. It was only to get some educational discussion going.

If you check my last thread about THE LUMBER JACK cycle package, that PSL just came out with. Its discussed NPP+Masteron work GREAT together.

So I thought why not a discuss what people prefer. NPP or DECA?

I was like (underlined)... What did I do now...? Lol

Deca, as I'm on it year-round and like the cost/mg of longer esters (TRT+)

No, the ester has NOTHING to do with water retention. It's all about that aromatase and estradiol. Old school bro-science came up with that theory looooong ago. Back when guys took nolva on cycle with zinc for estradiol as gyno was thought to be the only side.
 
I was like (underlined)... What did I do now...? Lol

Deca, as I'm on it year-round and like the cost/mg of longer esters (TRT+)

No, the ester has NOTHING to do with water retention. It's all about that aromatase and estradiol. Old school bro-science came up with that theory looooong ago. Back when guys took nolva on cycle with zinc for estradiol as gyno was thought to be the only side.

I agree... the ester has no relation to water retention...none
 
So some like npp to kick start then swap to DECA. Are there any benefits to just staying with npp full cycle and if so should it be run at least 14-16 weeks? First time using npp so didn't want to swap after a few weeks, would rather get this under my belt before adding another compound. Any suggestions?
 
No difference in Deca and NPP except for pinning frequency. Deca is my choice for two great reasons. Pinning frequency and cost. More bang for the buck with deca. The water retention has nothing to do with esters as previously mentioned, cut with deca or get fat as hell with deca.
 
Some guys say that you bloat less on npp. Any truth to that? I want to go short esters next cycle and wanted to throw npp in there so I don't bloat a lot, but its bs I'll go with DECA.

Nonsense as was said same stuff different ester. It being the same hormone and the ester different does not change what it does and how it does it. It is only the delivery of the absorption in time as the longevity of the half life in you system.

This forum is great to straighten out some of the bro-science.
 
200mg/wk for TRT+. I like to run it a bit higher on blasts, but 200 seems perfect for joint relief and it doesn't elevate my prolactin at all at that dose.

When dosing it at 200mg a week do you notice that you are holding more water than normal?
 
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