Odd situation, first timer looking for advice, don't eat me alive Cobra!

LovinPSDs

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First off sorry for writing a book, but I do want to say this place is full of knowledge and I have really enjoyed reading a boat load of information over the last few weeks. I'm hoping to get some advice on my current situation.

Me - 26, last time I was on the scale 86Kg, been sports my whole life, lifting all thru college (with the mostly shitty college diet), fell off a bit outa school but have been going strong the last 1.5 years, and the past 8 months have been extremely focused and heavy weight lifting with clean diet. I will be the first to admit I'm not 100% completely at my natural peak but feel I could/will plateau soon. Definitely at the peak of my life so far.

The situation - So currently I am living/working in Malaysia. I work pipeline and accepted a position here basically till the end of the year. The main problem with pipeline is we travel quite a bit. This could be a problem mid cycle. I'm not so worried about messing up a cycle as I am not having the proper compounds to come off it... I'm not even going to think about trying to smuggle illegal drugs out of Singapore airport :goof: So i am looking to do a very simple and easy to recover cycle incase there is an emergency. I'm 100% sure i'll be here for the next 7 weeks and 98% sure I'll be here for the next 3 months. This is fairly rare in my business so i'm looking at starting a cycle soon. I have done a ton of research and still learning more everyday but want some advice on to continue natural or push forward with gear, and what cycle of gear to take if so.

Originally before a boat load of the research started I was take a hard hard look at Primo. Now that I've learned a great deal more I realize the ideal first cycle is Test and supporting compounds. (I will post a cycle later depending on feedback) Basically after writting a book i wondering on the options below...

Test cycle (including proper support compounds) and run the risk of having to stop short/possible finding the PCT in australia (most likely where i would go)

Primo only, as its "the least hardcore" if you will. Would this be easier to recover from then a test cycle in an emergency situation? Money not an issue (overseas pay :biggthump)

Primo + test, I know not ideal for first cycle, just want to hear input

Stay natural and don't take the leap to gear.

Like I said, if it doesn't happen now, I don't see it happening any time in the next few years.. Looking to add some good quality mass while i'm stuck over seas with nothing to do but work, lift, eat repeat.
 
Some may disagree with me but if your pretty sure you will be there for 3 months why not run test? besides putting some clomid pills in a vitamin bottle is no big deal, they wont have a clue what they are.
 
Det-Oak

I was hoping you would chime in, I have read alot of your articles and info also. I think I might go for it, I've been peicing together my cycle and pretty close to sure what I need to do...

In case of an emergency it's no big deal to cut the cycle short as long as I have the clomid available right? I can't imagine why it would be any different than ending a cycle.

Any comments about the Primo?
 
just run test-keep the clomid close by


:bigok: Thanks man, I think i'm going to go for it. Just have to line up the gear, have a pretty good source here. Only other problem is getting good carbs around here. Malaysian's eat white rice like it's there job. :Pat:

I'll post my intentions on the cycle in this thread here sometime if you don't mind commenting on it Det-Oak.
 
:bigok: Thanks man, I think i'm going to go for it. Just have to line up the gear, have a pretty good source here. Only other problem is getting good carbs around here. Malaysian's eat white rice like it's there job. :Pat:

I'll post my intentions on the cycle in this thread here sometime if you don't mind commenting on it Det-Oak.

fyi....australia sucks for any sources on gear from what I hear....cant ship shit in there without customs taking it for their own personal use lol

im with det...you should def do the test only first cycle.....and the clomid idea is great!


ps...I only chew ass when its some young kid thinking he needs to juice ;)
 
fyi....australia sucks for any sources on gear from what I hear....cant ship shit in there without customs taking it for their own personal use lol

im with det...you should def do the test only first cycle.....and the clomid idea is great!


ps...I only chew ass when its some young kid thinking he needs to juice ;)


If i'm forced to come off the cycle I'll keep the Clomid near by unless I can somehow find a gym/source in Brisben. As far as here in Malaysia, i got everything I need.

As far as the young kid thing goes, I know.. I've gotten a pretty good laugh outa ALOT of threads i've been reading. Cycle to follow. Thanks for the info.
 
If i'm forced to come off the cycle I'll keep the Clomid near by unless I can somehow find a gym/source in Brisben. As far as here in Malaysia, i got everything I need.

As far as the young kid thing goes, I know.. I've gotten a pretty good laugh outa ALOT of threads i've been reading. Cycle to follow. Thanks for the info.

ps....love your title ;)
 
Feedback/advice welcomed...

Weeks 1 - 12, 200mg Test-E, E4D (maybe bump to 250 half way in??)
Weeks 1 - 17, 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Cobra, you seem to say start when needed and finish out.. any reason?)
Week 12 500 iu, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 10 days (start same as last pin?)
Weeks 14-17 Clomid 50/50/50/50

23g 1" or 1.5" needles?
 
Feedback/advice welcomed...

Weeks 1 - 12, 200mg Test-E, E4D (maybe bump to 250 half way in??)
Weeks 1 - 17, 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Cobra, you seem to say start when needed and finish out.. any reason?)
Week 12 500 iu, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 10 days (start same as last pin?)
Weeks 14-17 Clomid 50/50/50/50

23g 1" or 1.5" needles?

I would bump that test up to 500mg/every week bro....200 is basically just knocking out your normal production and replacing it with close to the same amount give or take..

weeks 1-12 test e at 250mg/mon and thurs

aromasin start when you notice signs of gyno....because your really just dont need it before then and that way you can tell if your going to even get gyno or not. Some dont. Also it saves you money. Dont be scared of gyno...its nothin really..guys always freak out over "bitch tits" but I have never seen anyone that has gotten them on cycle. I myself get small lumps under my nipple but it doesnt bother me and it goes away after pct....

blast phase of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (10 days) starts the day after your last inject

your pct of clomid looks fine

if your not very fat then the 1" will work fine
 
Thanks man, all your info has been helpful, in my thread and others....


My final research/questions now go to supplements... I'm on the "basic" natural stack, Whey, Pre workout, Creatine, Glutamine, fish oil, and something else for joints, forget the damn name...let it rock??

Or i guess the better question is are there any of the basics that are big no no's when on gear?
 
Thanks man, all your info has been helpful, in my thread and others....


My final research/questions now go to supplements... I'm on the "basic" natural stack, Whey, Pre workout, Creatine, Glutamine, fish oil, and something else for joints, forget the damn name...let it rock??

Or i guess the better question is are there any of the basics that are big no no's when on gear?

the word your looking for is probably glucosamine....

and your supps look fine....IMO I would get some bcaa's in there

and I dont think there are any no no's lol
 
Got BCAA's forgot about them.. well looks like I'll be talking to the source, confirming I'm not going to Aussie land in the next few weeks and see what happens. Waiting alil while isn't going hurt.


Thanks again
 
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