OK I copied this Powelifting routine what ya think for mass ?

Tryn2

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Do you think this would be good to use then do a boldybuilding one after you had a good foundation ?

"I'm far from becoming the next Louie Simmons, but the following programme may be of some help to a few members. I will recommend a routine below that in my opinion, will get you better strength and size gains than your current one. Do the exercises in the stated order:

Monday: Squat day - Regular Squats 5x5, Good Mornings 5x5, Power Snatches 3x3 or jump squats 3x3 or Lunges 3x8and Sit - Ups (weighted if possible) 3x10 (Get a School Gym Teacher or experienced lifter to show you the technique for Snatches. They build INCREDIBLE total body strength and power IMHO.)

Wednesday: Bench Day - Flat Bench Press 5x5, Bent Over barbell Power Rows 3x8 (Instead of the bar being in your hands the whole set, bar starts on floor, pick it up overhand grip with as much power as possible up to just below your sternum, then lower it to the floor and let go, and repeat), Dips 3x5 (weighted if you're strong enough), Lat pulldowns 3x8 or pull ups/ chins 3x8 (depends on your strength), and lastly skull crushers 3x8.

Friday: Deadlift Day - Regular Deadlift 5x5 or 8x3, High Pulls or Power cleans 3x3 (do a google search on them if you don't know the exercises), Push Presses 5x5 (Strict military presses are for bodybuilders. Use your knees/ some leg power to force that bar up!), and another deadlift movement, such as romanian deadlifts 3x8.


Do grip training on Mondays and Fridays aswell: Dumbell/ Barbell holds, plate pinches and weighted/ non weighted hangs are some really good grip exercises.

Cut out all the bodybuilder exercises. No knee extensions or leg curls, no hack squats or leg presses, cut out fancy machines and pulleys and limit your dumbell work, no upright rows or bent over barbell rows or preacher curls or military presses or dumbell flyes etc etc. Leave that stuff to the bodybuilders!

Give the routine 3 to 4 months consistent training to merit a decent shot at it before throwing it on the scrap heap.

B.A.
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Do powerlifters do that much volume for deads? I always thought the volume was not that high on actual deads.
 
thats way too much. you gonna kill someone with that, unless you are a genetic recovery freak (and there are a few).

Here’s a generic routine that is a good starting point. This is a mass building routine. Probably less volume than you are used too but very effective. Three days per week because that’s all most folks can handle if they are training heavy. They key is forced/assisted reps. Painful but very effective if you really want to put on size. This does not include warm ups so that is up to you to make sure you are stretched and plenty warm before performing work sets. A work set is defined as a set that you just barely get all reps or need assistance on one or two reps. If you get all the reps fairly easily then it is a warm up and not a work set. Add abs and cardio on the days off to fit your needs. Limit cardio to 3 times week for 30 – 45 minutes of low impact as intense cardio burns muscle.


Monday:
Squats 2 x 5
Box squats 2 x 4
Leg presses 2 x 5
Calves (your choice of exercise) 2 x 10

Tuesday:
Wide grip flat bench 2 x 6
Decline medium grip bench 2 x 6
Weighted dips 2 x 10
Upright rows 2 x 5

Thursday:
Dead lifts (rotate variations each week) 2 x 5
Bent over rows 2 x 4
Reverse grip narrow grip pull downs 2 x 6
Standing wide grip curls 2 x 6

Every one of these movements is a mass building exercise. These are the essential movements for putting on size. Rest and nutrition are just as important as lifting, neglect any one of the three and you will not grow. Juice or no juice all will grow with this routine or a similar one. Consistency is the key. Adding 5 lbs to the bar every other week equals 130lbs/year. Not bad considering many are moving the same weight year in year out. Strength gains are the key to growth, not other way around.

I hope this helpful to all who read it. I have designed many programs for a variety of athletes with varying needs. If you have special needs such as martial arts, football or gymnastics (to name a few) the program can be altered to accommodate these needs.

these exercises are not etched in stone so if you get better esults with a different back movement for example then sub it in. do not sub for the three core movments, squats, deads and flat bench (unless you have shoulder probs, then an alternative for flat bench will work)

now if you are one of those fortuante few who can sustain high volume and still make gains then we can add a day to the routine. if this is too much volume then a 2 day split works very well. and there are some who do very well on a 2 per week training routine.
 
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Do you think like arms, shoulders receive enough work and do not require a seperate day ? I guess the core being military press...
 
Tryn2 said:
Do you think like arms, shoulders receive enough work and do not require a seperate day ? I guess the core being military press...

no the core being squats, bench (sub weighted dips here if you like) , deads and heavy back work.
 
Pullingbig,
I am interested in a speed and power type version of your recomended program.
I usualy do alot of cleans, snatches, push press and other explosive type moves. taking a bit of a rest and sticking with more of a controlled bb program for a month or two. Gettin' old, and those moves take a toll after a while. Never have gained much size. thats o.k., just want strength, balance, endurance and speed. I play lacrosse goalie in an indoor league; so i want to stay quick and mean. Any ideas?? Much appreciated.
 
heavy week / light week works great in ths situation. on heavy week do thebreps i listed and on light week do 1 work set of 15-20 reps on the same exercises. make sure to stretch before and after all workouts and continue your cardio as is. good luck.
 
Im sorry pullin' What I meant was is there any room for some more shoulder work. Like military presses ?
 
Tryn2 said:
Im sorry pullin' What I meant was is there any room for some more shoulder work. Like military presses ?


are your shoulders lagging? increase core strenght and all grows. the shoulder joint is such a little area and it gets hit on almost every exercise. i dont do any direct shoulder work. the front delts get hammered on benching while the rear get hammered on back day. i believe i listed upright rows or side laterals for the only shoulder movement. these hit the medial delt so you are covered. i prefer upright rows because it is more of a compound movement than side lats. jes give it a try and if you need to add them in later go for it. good luck and be safe.
 
OK Ive tried this program. My first question is for the squats. I go pretty heavy for squats and I go deep anyway. So last night I did three sets of squats and skipped box squats. I think I may bump it to 4 sest squats.

I have a hard time with dips can they be subbed out or should I just learn and start doing them ?

Other than that everything else looks good. Except I may swap in and out incline bench with decline...
Also havinf 3 days off after thursday thats ok right. Im just not used to this but shit I aint huge either so Im giving it a try. Thanks guys
 
Tryn2 said:
OK Ive tried this program. My first question is for the squats. I go pretty heavy for squats and I go deep anyway. So last night I did three sets of squats and skipped box squats. I think I may bump it to 4 sest squats.

I have a hard time with dips can they be subbed out or should I just learn and start doing them ?

Other than that everything else looks good. Except I may swap in and out incline bench with decline...
Also havinf 3 days off after thursday thats ok right. Im just not used to this but shit I aint huge either so Im giving it a try. Thanks guys

four sets of squats is too much. if you going all out you cant do four sets. my last squat i did 1 workset of 1 rep. normally i do 1 workset of 4 to 6 reps but i did a single sunday. i post my workouts in the sticky "do deadlifts thicken waste". check um out and you'll see what i am talking about.

continue dips. you will grow into them. you will never see a guy doin dips with 150lbs hanging off of him with small tris and pecs. it aint gonna happen.

do the routine as i listed. jes try it for a while and we'll adjust it as necessarry. aight??
 
wow that must be a killer! But if someone was in check with the proper diet, rest, and on a nice amount of gear for recouperation, i do not see why it would not produce excelent results. How long does a workout like that usually take?
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on what kind of standard gym equipment you can substitute for a box to do box squats?
 
Bimmer said:
How long does a workout like that usually take?

Add it up. I take 2 minute rest periods except leg day I double it, a set depends on how many reps I do.
 
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