Opinion on cruise or PCT ( ._.)

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Swolltwoll

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Whats up guys, ive never cruised before. I usually run a moderately long cycle of 2 compounds. Then PCT off...my cycle was coming to an end in September, of 750mg test Cyp and 600mg NPP. I just got a nice 10 day vacation booked in December, i know it sounds dumb, but i would have liked to run a solid 8 wk cut stack for the vacation. Whats your guys recommendation? PCT for a solid 2 months. 8 wk cut stack then pct again for months after. Or 1 shot a week it for the 2 months 8 wk cut stack. full PCT off. Just looking for opinions on what you guys think!
 
How long is the cycle that ends in September? What is your age? Are you okay with the prospect of TRT for the rest of your life if you can't recover when you eventually hop off?
 
It was a 20 wk cycle, which is why id rather not cruise for the 2 months...however if id only do more damage to PCT for 2 months than id rater go the other route. And unfortunately i am only 24. (I know the whole speech :| ) i figured when im older anyway ill be doing a shot a week. As long as theres some way for me to have at least one kid when im older idc lmao
 
How old are you? Cruising can lead into a life long commitment...Staying on os some serous stuff and will take dedication (with blood work and such), it's not somthing to just DO just to do it.... it's either your ON or OFF...Staying ON B&C is just what I said a "commitment"... Are you really ready for that?
 
Right, i understand that. Ive always cycled on and off, its just an awkward time where my current cycle was ending and i wanted to do a nice cut cycle for this vacation. If i cruised for this 2 month span it would probably be the only time i cruised. I just dont know if a 2 month PCT would do more damage than a 2 month cruise to 8 week blast to Full PCT after
 
4GKenZy said:
Cruise. Blasting and cruising is a million times better than cycling.
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Idiotic immature and reckless advise given we know less about the OP than u do basic AAS use.

OP-age please. 20 wk cycle s are a quarantee for pre mature trt. And that is a life long cruise w rx oversight, bw, ancill s,ie expensive but necessary to maintain both mental and physical well being.
Get off.
PCT.
A 10 day vacation that COULD be the nail in the coffin we bury ur hpta in...worth strutting ur shit to maybe hit sum cum bucket ?

Homie..don t play that !
 
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Swolltwoll said:
It was a 20 wk cycle, which is why id rather not cruise for the 2 months...however if id only do more damage to PCT for 2 months than id rater go the other route. And unfortunately i am only 24. (I know the whole speech :| ) i figured when im older anyway ill be doing a shot a week. As long as theres some way for me to have at least one kid when im older idc lmao
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u risk trt for the rest of your life..im on trt cuz i need it but this could shut down your hpta...no bueno bro bro... i say pass and let your body recover. plus youre too young to be cycling man. advice is given here for your best interest in mind not ours...just a heads up!
 
LJCatBrah said:
Agreed. Assuming you understand the commitment and this isn't something you're gonna get sick of dealing with in a few years
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Yeah I fuckin lol'd at Teutonic's post. No sane man thinks playing yo-yo with your hormones by cycling 3-4x a year is healthier than just B&C. OP even said he cycles multiples times a year.
 
So it s much healthier to keep your hpta turned off year round huh ?

You can take 125 a week, 1250 a week or 12,500 a month. Ur hpta is off, NOT PRODUCING. This is a fact only side effects vary not hpta functionality.

Constant suppression is a guarantee to trt.

No informed educated informed and responsible AAS user would argue this point, yet you still do ?

Explain why my logic is false but use facts not gym guru factoid retardoid science.

This why I m here less and less.

Waste of my time arguing with kids..
 
Teutonic said:
So it s much healthier to keep your hpta turned off year round huh ?

You can take 125 a week, 1250 a week or 12,500 a month. Ur hpta is off, NOT PRODUCING. This is a fact only side effects vary not hpta functionality.

Constant suppression is a guarantee to trt.

No informed educated informed and responsible AAS user would argue this point, yet you still do ?

Explain why my logic is false but use facts not gym guru factoid retardoid science.

This why I m here less and less.

Waste of my time arguing with kids..
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So by cycling a few times a year instead of cruising, you are exposing yourself to numerous side effects from *breast cancer drugs* and going through the hell that is PCT every damn time. By doing this, you have less stable hormones in your body and can go through terrible episodes of acne. Not to mention having tanked testosterone during PCT feels like shit for those couple of weeks. Combine that with nolva/clomid side effects and you feel shit for 4+ weeks each time you cycle.

Yes, having your HPTA suppressed is healthier than cycling year-round. I don't see why having a functioning HPTA is that important, anyway? HCG + TRT is very easy. I inject once every three weeks for my cruise (Test-U) and hcg keeps my leydig cells nice and healthy. Not a big deal for me. When the time comes for me to PCT, Triptorelin + HMG + HCG has a very high success rate. Until then, I shall cruise and maintain more stable levels.

And don't go personal again.
 
4GKenZy said:
So by cycling a few times a year instead of cruising, you are exposing yourself to numerous side effects from *breast cancer drugs* and going through the hell that is PCT every damn time. By doing this, you have less stable hormones in your body and can go through terrible episodes of acne. Not to mention having tanked testosterone during PCT feels like shit for those couple of weeks. Combine that with nolva/clomid side effects and you feel shit for 4+ weeks each time you cycle.

Yes, having your HPTA suppressed is healthier than cycling year-round. I don't see why having a functioning HPTA is that important, anyway? HCG + TRT is very easy. I inject once every three weeks for my cruise (Test-U) and hcg keeps my leydig cells nice and healthy. Not a big deal for me. When the time comes for me to PCT, Triptorelin + HMG + HCG has a very high success rate. Until then, I shall cruise and maintain more stable levels.

And don't go personal again.
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I can see both points making sense. This right here though is exactly why i asked ^ ive ALWAYS cycled on and off and yes exactly the whole crash shit and then taking high doses of breast cancer medication. Does it sound stupid to cuise to blast because of a vacation im taking in December, yes lmao however would i want fo crash or break out for it? No. And its an awkward time frame from off cycle to when this vacation is. I figured when im in my 40's anyway regardless if i ever did AAS id probably still be on TRT because...well why not lol. Im sure theres a way to cycle off even if on TRT with proper doctor guidance to be able to have a child when im older. And it was only going to be my first cruise i ever did and it was gunna only be a 2 month cruise to a short 8 week cut cycle then i was gunna PCT..can that REALLY fuck my whole body up and shut me down permanently?? Or with the proper 2 month cruise + HCG use keep me good. Ive always had good bounce back. Shit there was a time i got bunk Adex, and my estrogen shot up to 600 lvl. I bounced back very smooth from that lol sucked ! But i bounced back
 
Op blast and cruise at your age isn't worth it, I'm learning that the hard way right now trying to keep my bloodwork in check. I'm 46 and I self admin trt, I only blast once a year but it's def been a struggle. Listen to what the vets here are saying, they've pointed me in the right direction many times as they will you!
 
I honestly think a 2 month pct is a waste of time. Your HPTA doesn't even get close to being normal. You have a decision to make. Either pct and let your hormones stabilize 4-6 months or cruise till you run your cycle you want then do a very good PCT. If you go that route run some HCG along with your cycle to help jump start everything when you come off.
 
Well I posted a thread similar to this and got pretty much the same answers!!! What that means to me is do whatever the fuck tou want and proceed with caution!!!! Most important thing to me and I would say to you is make sure you are healthy and doing the proper blood work. Everybody is their own person and ppl deal with their goals and where they want to be in life different!!! Some ppl in the game are in half ass some 100 percent!!! Some think just cause they lift 4 days a week and eat like shit and party they are bodybuilders and the other train eat sleep breath the sport think they bodybuilders... So which is it??? You decide!!! Sorry and I understand that everybody obviously has their own opinions and probably giving advice based on personal experience. When I made a thread like this their was a comment made "prisoner to the needle" and I just looked at it and laughed!!!! I just don't understand why ppl try to speak negatively on steroid use!! We are all here for a reason!!! We all enjoy the sport of body building and receiving it in the ass!!! I love it in the ass!!! So yea it's such a negative thing I may have to be on trt one day!!! No not really as long as I'm healthy I really don't care and I take steps in that direction. We are bodybuilders and we do what we do to achieve what we need to be where we want to be!!! There was other comment made like well what happens when you can't get a prescription!!!!....... Lmao first off if you are in the game you know it's not hard to find.... I can go anywhere in the USA and walk into a gym and find the stuff....I mean if you can t or don't know how to talk to ppl then I guess there is always the internet sites enter a few numbers and click the button... Bingo!!!! Sorry I don't mean to sound like a asshole or arrogant but In order to achieve above average there is only one way!!! I'm not saying blast and cruise is the only way but all the comment like prisoner to the needle and oh what you gonna do when your source is gone to me these ppl are the average joe that do a cycle here and there and basically look like shit and don't realize what it takes. We all are aware that even running cycles puts us in danger of many things....well so does waking up in the morning and going to work....if you don't know that then you are completely stupid and need to get into bingo or something!!!!
As far as age is concerned I think starting before the age of 25 is a mistake just because you still have a lot of shit to juggle in your life and really don't know if you are committed as you think yet! I always tell the young guys shit there are 20 year old running this shit they should wait!!! I'm in my thirties have a steady career family the works!!! I say you haven't made it until you accomplish all of that and still find the steady balance of real life and the darkside.... That is when you figure out whether you are dedicated to the life of fitness not because you like it but because it takes extreme dedication because of the fact it's hard to find all the time for that in 24 hours!!!! Anyway I'm done ranting!!!
 
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