Opinion on Tren Winny stack

[AlliKnowIsGRIND]

I've been thinking about starting a cycle of tren-e and stacking it with winny-v for a cutting cycle.

Any opinions/suggestions on what mg to use and how to run this stack?

 

[clman8585]

Are you going to run test? I wouldn't use Winstrol (winny) unless I was doing a contest or photo shoot. Qhats the point of drying out besides for those reasons. Whaats your stats and cycle history?

 

[AlliKnowIsGRIND]

Are you going to run test? I wouldn't use Winstrol (winny) unless I was doing a contest or photo shoot. Qhats the point of drying out besides for those reasons. Whaats your stats and cycle history?

I'm 308 lbs 6 foot 1 19% body fat
I wanna do this as a cutting cycle so I can really get lean.
I've experimented a bunch with bulking cycles and I've gotten really big. But now I want to get cut and really harden all that mass. Also someone told me I shouldn't run it with Test.
I'm not the most knowledgeable. That's why I created this account so people with experience could give me guidance

 

[MeatHead96]

I would never run a cycle without test. You should be able to get well below 19 percent bf with diet alone before you cycle.

 

[AlliKnowIsGRIND]

I would never run a cycle without test. You should be able to get well below 19 percent bf with diet alone before you cycle.

Alright thanks for the advice. Can you be a little more specific on why I definitely should run this cycle with Test please? I'm just curious. Some say don't do both some say you have to run it with test but non have been very clear about the reasons why

 

[MeatHead96]

Alright thanks for the advice. Can you be a little more specific on why I definitely should run this cycle with Test please? I'm just curious. Some say don't do both some say you have to run it with test but non have been very clear about the reasons why

Any AAS will shut down your natural levels of testosterone to almost nothing fairly quickly, especially tren which is very suppresive. You should always take at least a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of test with every cycle just to maintain libido and not suffer from lethargy and other low T related side effects.

 

[AlliKnowIsGRIND]

Any AAS will shut down your natural levels of testosterone to almost nothing fairly quickly, especially tren which is very suppresive. You should always take at least a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of test with every cycle just to maintain libido and not suffer from lethargy and other low T related side effects.

Okay that makes sense thank you

 

[Trevdog]

I also don't like winstrol. It's hard on the joints and the liver. Anavar is a better choice if you're going to use an oral. I agree to never run a cycle without a testosterone base. 500 mgs. per week is a solid base.