Oral or Injectable to add to first cycle?

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Harvie

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I am considering adding to my first Cycle of Test E. I am only considering this because I would like to reach my destination quicker. Currently I at 3 pins in with 500mg/week Test E. (Aromasin on hand, Nolva, Clomid for PCT) I know 3 pins (almost 4) is not a great deal of time for the Test E to kick in fully yet, But I figure if Im going to do this, why not utilize this time to really make a change.

My goals are to add some lean muscle mass. Some fat gain is not an issue because I can take off the weight easy (lost 240 lbs. 420-> 180 lbs in 2 years naturally, no fatburners, caffiene etc... the hard way lol)

I am wondering whether adding an oral like dbol, tbol or anavar would be okay. Or would adding another injectable be a better option for gains? I am looking at options for gains.

Any recommendations? And why would you chose that option vs something else.

Thank you very much in advance! Looking for a great deal if input. HOPING for an epic thread.

Stats 23 y/o seriously training 3 years
5'11
190
14-15% bf.

Diet is on point.
 
I like what Bundy said Plus!!! stay with your plan, changing things up will not always is the best idea specially for first timers.
 
I agree with what has been said. I gained 30 pounds while on my first test cycle. Just finished post cycle therapy (pct) and up 21 yet. Save it for the next cycle.
 
Harvie said:
I am considering adding to my first Cycle of Test E. I am only considering this because I would like to reach my destination quicker. Currently I at 3 pins in with 500mg/week Test E. (Aromasin on hand, Nolva, Clomid for PCT) I know 3 pins (almost 4) is not a great deal of time for the Test E to kick in fully yet, But I figure if Im going to do this, why not utilize this time to really make a change.

My goals are to add some lean muscle mass. Some fat gain is not an issue because I can take off the weight easy (lost 240 lbs. 420-> 180 lbs in 2 years naturally, no fatburners, caffiene etc... the hard way lol)

I am wondering whether adding an oral like dbol, tbol or anavar would be okay. Or would adding another injectable be a better option for gains? I am looking at options for gains.

Any recommendations? And why would you chose that option vs something else.

Thank you very much in advance! Looking for a great deal if input. HOPING for an epic thread.

Stats 23 y/o seriously training 3 years
5'11
190
14-15% bf.

Diet is on point.
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you say your diet is on point but your bf is 15%? that's the problem with america today, "i want the best results and i want them NOW!". stick with test only, keep training hard and stick with the diet and intensity off cycle as well. gains will come. besides, the more you gain the quicker, the harder it is to keep. i'd rather gain 10 quality pounds on cycle and keep it rather than bloat up to 20 and lose 8 of it.
 
donjob said:
you say your diet is on point but your bf is 15%? that's the problem with america today, "i want the best results and i want them NOW!". stick with test only, keep training hard and stick with the diet and intensity off cycle as well. gains will come. besides, the more you gain the quicker, the harder it is to keep. i'd rather gain 10 quality pounds on cycle and keep it rather than bloat up to 20 and lose 8 of it.
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Thanks for the concern. Im Canadian. Obviously you did not read my entire post. Im 14-15% best guess. When one loses 240 lbs naturally one accumulates a great deal of extra skin. I could have 10 lbs of loose skin on my body which makes it difficult to gauge my true BF%. I've been down to 177, BUT developed an EFA deficiency and had low testosterone for 2 years. As you all know, low test makes it difficult to put on muscle, makes it easy to overtrain, and makes it easy to gain wait. I think I have done pretty good considering my situation. Putting on 10lbs or so of lean muscle in the past 2 years naturally. This is with low test. my diet IS on point, or else putting on 10 lbs of muscle would not have been possible. 5 years now of packing meals with me, weighing my food, vitamins, calculations...... Its not easy my friend. I think I have done exceptionally well. Not to mention my personal life achievements I have gathered along the way. One should not jump to conclusions when looking at the stats.
 
Also, dbol,. tbol, Avanar vs Injectable compounds... I know what dbol is all about, and tbol. How does Anavar compare to these two? Moreover, What would over options be for injectables? All I really know is test. ( asking out of curiousity, im very analytical and weight all the factors for everything when I make a decision)
 
Don't add anything, too late for that now. Just run with your test and with proper diet you will be fine. It's common belief around here that for your first cycle to stick with just test. This way you'll have a better understanding of how your body reacts to AAS. As for "Lean mass" there's this myth that certain AAS will "cut you up" and add "ripped/lean mass" when honestly it comes down to your diet. I'm no expert nutritionists but from what I've read on this site and from personal experience whatever body type that your looking for is going to stem from your diet and workout routine. A lot of guys like to praise winstrol for it's drier leaner mass gains but it's a relatively weak androgen and I'm personally not a fan of it because it can dry out your joints.
 
Yea brother listen to everybody else. Stick with just the test for now, see how you react to just test only. And next cycle freely free to add something else. Just try not to get in a hurry, building muscle/losing fat is a long term thing. It takes time. just stick to a good solid diet and work your ass off and you will see the results from that test. Test is king!
Also to answer your question about the anavar and other injectables...Anavar isn't anything like tbol dbol or anadrol. It will not aromatize into estrogen. So all gains are hard and dry lean muscle gains. But do not expect crazy gains like u would see from dbol. A lot of people like to use var during cutting phases, I use var about 8 weeks out from a show and I find that var gives good strength gains which def helps come pre contest time due to your lack of energy and strength at that time..so var basically cuts u up, adds some lean muscle..and strength thru the roof.
As far as other injectable..tren is the most powerful..good gains..crazy strength and aggression. However tren is not for beginners. Run a couple more cycles Ans then look into tren. And deca is decent. It will add some mass..not slot but what it will add is QUALITY.
 
Nobody has replied for a reason bro. Lol ur not listening to us.
And if staying lean important to you then learn how to eat.
 
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