all I can tell you is
Someone I know ( in the pharma bus.) spoke to a rep at Organon and was told ...for a short time in the time frame I mentioned they did use red stoppers. Plus my symptoms include after 4 weeks, increased strenth ,oily skin, oily hair, some acne (all oilly symptioms , have not had acne in 15 yrs. is very unuasual) . Plus a real good PUMP on rest days. What do you think now ?