PCT difference between short and long cycle

[Agnes]

Hey guys,

I've only done a four week oral cycle. Four week PCT with nolva and clomid. My question is how would a PCT be different with a 16 week Test E cycle? Surely a four week PCT would not be the same for a four week cycle as a 16 week cycle. Should a 16 week PCT be longer, or is a four week PCT too long for a four week oral cycle?

 

[Megatron28]

I think you are missing the key point. Males should never run oral-only cycles. It shuts down their Testosterone and no exogenous testosterone ia being provided.

 

[Ziegler]

Should never but do anyway. I have a friend that has been running oral stand alone cycles that last upwards of a year long at a time with no on cycle therapy or pct in between. Here's the deal and I know I'm gunna get all kinds of ridiculed on this one. My friend has been running long oral cycles stand alonez since the later 80s. Dbol winstral anavar primo.I know the lastest one he ran was a thialand brand of primobolan for a year and a half at 50mg a day. Then the supply came up short so he switched over to anavar and is still on the cycle just swithed it up to anavar now at 100mg per day.This guy is a famous musician that is playing shows 4 nights a week and also doing an hour of cardio everyday. 51 years old and looks 31. The guy has eaten thousands of dht pills and never even ran thistle. When he comes off once in a blue moon he shrinks quite a bit but doesn't freak out or get sick. The only time he ever gynoed out was on dbol and another time was on prohormones. Still fucks bitches all the time no problems their. Smokes weed and drinks ocasionally says he had even some aderol goin lately. I don't suggest anyone go out and do it like this but I'm telling you this facts true this guy is doing it.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Should never but do anyway. I have a friend that has been running oral stand alone cycles that last upwards of a year long at a time with no on cycle therapy or pct in between. Here's the deal and I know I'm gunna get all kinds of ridiculed on this one. My friend has been running long oral cycles stand alonez since the later 80s. Dbol winstral anavar primo.I know the lastest one he ran was a thialand brand of primobolan for a year and a half at 50mg a day. Then the supply came up short so he switched over to anavar and is still on the cycle just swithed it up to anavar now at 100mg per day.This guy is a famous musician that is playing shows 4 nights a week and also doing an hour of cardio everyday. 51 years old and looks 31. The guy has eaten thousands of dht pills and never even ran thistle. When he comes off once in a blue moon he shrinks quite a bit but doesn't freak out or get sick.

Sorry buddy, but I gotta neg you for that one

 

[Ziegler]

Sorry buddy, but I gotta neg you for that one

I'm telling you what this guy has been doing for years and a lot of other guys too.why the hell do you think they sell dbols in bottles of a thousand.Do you think everyone who runs AAS does it by the book.Your wrong dude people are out there eating dht all day everyday get hooked on them like any other pill and just keep on eating them dummy. They tell people don't eat prilosec oct for more than 4 days without taking a 6 month break but at the same time are selling them in 120 pill blister pack boxes because they know people don't listen they do it anyway. It helps them not have heart burn for a whole day yippie. Same with the dht it helps them not be fat skinny or weak yippie. And if they aren't eating high doses everyday its not going to make them drop dead of liver toxic poison. What I can't share anything unless its a story of AAS being done coreectly. I can't tell you about how some people do it. I get your negative points because I shared this guys regamine. I didn't suggest someone go do it. I said I got a friend and this is how he does it. That little red gstring in your avatar barely covers what you are.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

The neg was because your sharing your 'friends' story like it's normal use, or safe to do so. My point is you have zero idea what's going on in his body unless he's been getting regular blood work (which I very much doubt it with the degree of ignorance he clearly has to AAS use) and yet you share it like it's not a problem.

Oh, and you realise when you edit your post to put your disclaimer in AFTER I pulled you up on it being bad advice that we can all see that right?

 

[Onk]

The neg was because your sharing your 'friends' story like it's normal use, or safe to do so. My point is you have zero idea what's going on in his body unless he's been getting regular blood work (which I very much doubt it with the degree of ignorance he clearly has to AAS use) and yet you share it like it's not a problem.

Oh, and you realise when you edit your post to put your disclaimer in AFTER I pulled you up on it being bad advice that we can all see that right?

LOL did he? That's hilarious.

 

[Ziegler]

The neg was because your sharing your 'friends' story like it's normal use, or safe to do so. My point is you have zero idea what's going on in his body unless he's been getting regular blood work (which I very much doubt it with the degree of ignorance he clearly has to AAS use) and yet you share it like it's not a problem.

Oh, and you realise when you edit your post to put your disclaimer in AFTER I pulled you up on it being bad advice that we can all see that right?

Read the first sentence I wrote. Should never but do anyway. Goes with the post previous to mine. That means what it says I wrote that first thing so someone like you wouldn't take what I wrote as advice or take it our of context but you did anyways becsuse you want to be the big shot. I can't edit something you commented on already so they can all see what you read and. posted on. I added more to it after you jumped in there and handed me a negative because you think other people shouldn't speak unless it is music to your ears.

 

[Ziegler]

LOL did he? That's hilarious.

What's so funny about it ? You can look at what he commented on my origional post that can not be changed.The first words I say is should not but do anyway. Just like a surgen general warning on a cigarette box says you shouldn't smoke but people do anyway. Should not means I'm saying I don't recomend this but I know of people that do it anyways. Just saying what I know and then pro got his gstring in a bunch over it.

 

[Onk]

What's so funny about it ? You can look at what he commented on my origional post that can not be changed.The first words I say is should not but do anyway. Just like a surgen general warning on a cigarette box says you shouldn't smoke but people do anyway. Should not means I'm saying I don't recomend this but I know of people that do it anyways. Just saying what I know and then pro got his gstring in a bunch over it.

because when people edit they make it obvious

i.e.
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text here blah blah
blah blah end of text

edit: spelling errors
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whereas you wanted to hide it.

 

[Ziegler]

I'm not trying to hide it. Are you even reading what I first wrote and then what I added to it. What I wrote isn't that embarrassing. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. And get out of our spit spat.

 

[3J]

different compounds will affect your hpta in different ways..

testosterone will shut you down much slower than, for example, deca or tren....


just one dosage of deca or tren will usually shut you down hard..

so it really matters to the compound..

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Read the first sentence I wrote. Should never but do anyway. Goes with the post previous to mine. That means what it says I wrote that first thing so someone like you wouldn't take what I wrote as advice or take it our of context but you did anyways becsuse you want to be the big shot. I can't edit something you commented on already so they can all see what you read and. posted on. I added more to it after you jumped in there and handed me a negative because you think other people shouldn't speak unless it is music to your ears.

I appreciate your apology. No hard feelings man