PCT How should I use 10'000 IU of hcg for Pct?

[ARESD]

Planning out my next cycle
Wk 1-4 prop 50mg eod, TestE 150mge3d
Wk1-7 npp 75mg eod
wk 1-12 Test e 150mg e3d

Ok so my question is what would be the optimal way to use these 10000 ius of hcg? I just read a thread saying that 500iu a wee on cycle is pointless . Have also read that HCG is best used atleast 3 days apart? So im thinking of just doing a blast at the of the cycle. How should I dose the blast??

Rest of pct will be clomid and nolvadex

 

[Rida5d]

Use 250 iu * 2 times from the beginning 4 days into ur pct.
Looks like hcg blasting is old school

 

[Dickey]

Rida5d is right, hcg for pct is pretty old school, and actually counter productive. Austinite has a good thread on it, maybe I'll see if I can find it for you but basically HCG acts like LH, so on cycle it keeps your testes working and stimulates your leydig cells along with a few other things, but it also keeps your pituitary from producing natural LH, so when your trying to recover during pct suppressing your LH production with HCG doesn't make a whole lot of sense

 

[Dickey]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...e-benefits-mixing-administration-details.html

 

[Rida5d]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...e-benefits-mixing-administration-details.html

That's the one^^^^^

 

[ARESD]

damn im confused now. Just read a thread by DET OAK on hcg that says pretty much the opposite. Aswell there is a guy named Dr.Scally who has a protocol that calls for 2000 iu HCG EOD for 10 days. Along with nolva and clomid. He claims that he has recovered hundreds of AAS users.

I have a lot of respect for austinites opinion though and actually would prefer his method (convenience wise). I just want to know which one will grant me the best recovery?

 

[thades]

I don't think an HCG blast is counter productive, I just wouldn't call it part of pct because as previously stated, HCG itself is suppressive. I run HCG on cycle as well as a blast before pct and have recovered from from very heavy(dosage) and long cycles(8-9 months)...I would attribute my recover to the HCG use. I do a blast of 2,000ius eod for ten days total prior to pct. I wait three days between my last HCG pin and beginning pct.

 

[Dickey]

Ya I know there are quite a few people who swear by a blast before pct, i just meant during pct itself I would think it's counter productive.

 

[ARESD]

thats what i meant. Wasnt planning on using it along with clomid and nolva

 

[Rida5d]

I don't think an HCG blast is counter productive, I just wouldn't call it part of pct because as previously stated, HCG itself is suppressive. I run HCG on cycle as well as a blast before pct and have recovered from from very heavy(dosage) and long cycles(8-9 months)...I would attribute my recover to the HCG use. I do a blast of 2,000ius eod for ten days total prior to pct. I wait three days between my last HCG pin and beginning pct.

Apparently u can't metabolize such dosage (2000 iu) in such period of time (eod)
Beside u ll have some side effects at such high dosage.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Me personally I would stick with taking it on cycle it gives you the best chance of recovery. Also I think that some times it is good to stick to a method that people are using that you can talk to. So that way if their is any problems you can just private message some one who has been doing the same thing as you. If you can't get a hold of the guy who recommended a certain way of doing something if their is any problems than you are kind of left on your own.

 

[thades]

Apparently u can't metabolize such dosage (2000 iu) in such period of time (eod)
Beside u ll have some side effects at such high dosage.

The point of such a high dosage is to shock the testes.

Should have mentioned that you should keep running your AI through the HCG blast becauSe, yes, HCG will cause a rise in estro levels. 10 days is not long enough to desensitize one's leydig cells in the testes.