PCT recovery WITHOUT a SERM!?

thomasre

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So I finished my 12 week test prop 150 EOD and winny 50mg ED (4 weeks). I had clomid/nolva ready for PCT. However, I stupidly left the packages in my jeans and they got destroyed in the wash. I had an un-mixed bottle of HCG I was saving for my next cycle. I said fuck it and did 2000iu's once, then 1,500iu's, then 1,000, then 500. All Spread out over the course of two weeks. I used liquidex the whole time at a measly .1mg E3D. I began DAA and heavy doses of D3 at the same time. It's been 10 days since my last HCG shot and my balls are still full. My sex drive is ridiculously high, and my workout's are improving slowly. I know everyone will suggest bloodwork to assess recovery. Could it be that using a SERM isn't as effective as we might assume?
 
They actually are quite effective, and basing a hypothosis on one person's recovery going well without them is almost silly. You have to keep in mind that everyone is different and you may be one of the lucky ones that recovers quickly. Hcg does help a lot and so do the others supps you took, but even you knowing you can recover without them I would not recommend you try it again. it's more of a better to be safe than sorry thing. I have friends that just use nolva, some that just use Clomid, and some that use both. There are better ways than others, but if you can cover all bases just to be safe then why not do it? Why risk your own health. I'm very happy to hear it worked out for you, but be safe, brother.
 
So I finished my 12 week test prop 150 EOD and winny 50mg ED (4 weeks). I had clomid/nolva ready for PCT. However, I stupidly left the packages in my jeans and they got destroyed in the wash. I had an un-mixed bottle of HCG I was saving for my next cycle. I said fuck it and did 2000iu's once, then 1,500iu's, then 1,000, then 500. All Spread out over the course of two weeks. I used liquidex the whole time at a measly .1mg E3D. I began DAA and heavy doses of D3 at the same time. It's been 10 days since my last HCG shot and my balls are still full. My sex drive is ridiculously high, and my workout's are improving slowly. I know everyone will suggest bloodwork to assess recovery. Could it be that using a SERM isn't as effective as we might assume?
You'll know in about 6 weeks from now. That's when you should be at a steady state of hormone levels and can get a blood test with accurate results. If it were me, I'd do as Dre suggests and get on that clomid/nolva. Better safe than sorry imo.
 
you can recover without a SERM only from oral only light cycles ex dbol , winny ,anavar only... but it takes about 2 months to get back to normal and i wouldnt suggest it.
 
you can recover without a SERM only from oral only light cycles ex dbol , winny ,anavar only... but it takes about 2 months to get back to normal and i wouldnt suggest it.

You sure it's 2 months and not 2.2months lol? How could you come up with such a specific number and apply it across the board?
 
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