@#$% Peptides

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks for the reply. How much benadryl? Just 1 pill a night? Shit knocks me out cold. And where to get taurine from?

ANYWHERE man, any health food shop and just about any online protein seller. taurine is just an amino acid.
feel free to pm me if you need a link or 2.

 

[tgerm]

Today is day 14 so I'm about to take a 2 week break. Results have been good. Diet is finally back on track. Just eating maintenance (3200 cals). No scale but if I had to guess I'd say 15lbs total loss with about 10 of it being fat. I'm sure I've lost muscle gains too but it's hard to tell. I'm probably smaller but because I'm leaner I can't really tell visually. I'ma measure with a tape tonight to see where I'm at. Then again in 2 weeks and again 2 weeks after that.

 

[tgerm]

BTW, a note about the company I ordered from. When I place my order it was on a buy one get one free sale. My package didn't get shipped as a double order though. Just a single. I emailed company and not long after got an email back with a tracking number for the rest of my order. They claimed they were short of vials/bottles and didn't want to hold up initial orders. So I waited and it finally came in the mail. I didn't open it for several days but when I did I was happy to find that they shipped me an extra order of both products. I ordered 1 nolva and 1 clen. Was supposed to get 2 of each for the price of one. Got 1 nolva and 1 clen in the first box. Then got 2 nolva and 2 clen in the second. So I got buy one get two free. Great customer service!

 

[cheppallet]

here is a write up on the use of ketotifen (in place of benadryl):

Ketotifen was made popular by its ability to inhibit the down regulation of beta receptors caused by drugs like clenbuterol. Clenbuterol, albuterol, and Ephedrine used to be cycled on and off because they desensitize the various receptors they act on to produce their lipolytic effect. Ketotifen would therefore allow the use of these fat burning drugs for much longer periods.

If you've read my writings on Clenbuterol, you already know that Benadryl (the anti-histimine) can also be used for this same purpose, and is 10x cheaper and infinitely more available to most people. So why am I bothering to write about Ketotifen at all?

Ketotifen, in medical circles, is also recognized for its ability to lower levels of the cytokine Tumor Necrosis Factor-alpha (TNF-alpha), which is a catabolic hormone, and this is a property that Benadryl does not have to my knowledge. TNF-alpha lowers both testosterone and IGF-1 levels,and strenuous exercise elevates TNF-alpha levels. TNF-alpha has also been shown to increase insulin resistance,which we certainly dont want.

Ketotifen and Weight Loss
Ketotifen is used by people suffering from wasting diseases partially caused by TNF-alpha. I think, however, its ability to lower TNF-alpha is going to be overshadowed by anabolic effects produced by anabolic steroids. In one study involving AIDS patients, combining Ketotifen and Oxymetholone (Anadrol 50) showed that the Ketotifen didn't add much to the Oxymetholone induced weight gain. Hence,you are reading this profile in the "Ancilliaries" portion of this book, and not the "Fat - Burning" part, even though Ketotifen is typically used as part of a fat burning cycle including clen. Benadryl is simply too much cheaper and readily available to use Ketotifen in its place with Clen. However, for Post-Cycle-Therapy, Ketotifen and its ability to lower TNF-alpha, is a very valuable tool. You see, Hypogonadism (low testosterone) often accompanies elevated TNF-alpha levels,and after a cycle of anabolic steroids, you are going to be in a hypogonadal state, with elevated TNF-alpha. Thus, taking Ketotifen with your PCT is probably a very good idea. If you use ketotifen you could in theory stay on clenbuterol for an undefined period of time. This is because contrary to clenbuterol, ketotifen up regulates beta receptors.The recommended dose of ketotifen is 2-3mg per day, and it should be taken before bed, as it causes drowsiness.

nice post.

another option is to cycle off after 2 weeks and use an ECA stack. But this guy is dead on.

The fact still remains, without a solid diet, none of these things will do you any good. So make sure that is in check. You honestly shouldn't need any of these things until you get into single digit BF% anyway.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Also, I'm back in the gym after a month off and worked legs yesterday. Noticed some pretty good cramping in my glute/ham and quads. Not sure if it's because of the clen or just from taking the time off.

always add 2-3g of l-taurine daily to help with cramps when on clen

 

[Toolshed23]

Are you talking about purchase peptides? I didnt know they carried clen

 

[tgerm]

Are you talking about purchase peptides? I didnt know they carried clen

No. My title was edited by someone so I'm not sure I should post the name. Check my OP and read through it.

 

[tgerm]

Today is my first day off. Taking a 2 week break. Diet will be a constant 3200 cals clean. That's maintenance for me. I'd say I've lost maybe 10lbs. I was thinking 15 but that's probably overestimating. Probably 10 with 8 being fat. The visual difference of around 8lbs of fat is amazing though. Hopefully my next 2 week run is as successful. I'd like to get to around 200lbs and go back on cycle. Still want to stay lean though. I'm probably 210 right now.

 

[Ironmonger]

@tgerm - It's funny you posted about the flavorless clen. I actually wrote them shortly after taking it for the first time telling them I think they screwed up and forgot to put the actual ingredients in it, but shortly after I felt the effects and had to retract my original e-mail. That was a first for me, every Clen I used in the past had a very strong flavor and this stuff was like water. The stuff gave me less jitters than previous clen, but I got the same thermogenic effect as evident from my sweating just sitting at my desk.

 

[cherigo18cdz]

I've always used potassium to combat cramps also.

 

[tgerm]

I've been off for a week and am itching to get back on clen. Do I really have to wait 2 weeks?

 

[bigbacala2]

hey bud , wondering if u can help me with precision peptides ? im trying to find dosage rates for male n female for liquid albuterol and the liquid t3 , and idead would be greatly appreciated
thanks Larry