ph's vs aas? Need advice!!

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sherzer213

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So a few weeks ago i bought a new bottle of sdrol and sdmz2. My friend got a hook up and gave me a great deal from some guy so I figured why not? So I was at the gym when I saw the guy that hooked me up. He offered me a good deal on 8 weeks of test. My goal is to get a fitness model type of build and compete in a few mens physique comps. I never bothered with injectables b/c I never had a source, but now I do.

Idk if I should sell the bottles on ebay, make a profit, and buy the test. Or just buy the test and save the sdrol and sdmz2 for later use. Money isnt an issue since im in school and working. Which is a better choice? I will have proper ancillaries if I were to use test. I'm just worried that going on a test cycle can bring about lactation and seal my growth plates. I recently went from 5'9.5 to 5'10 in one month after I finished post cycle therapy (pct) for hdrol. So I really wanna keep my estrogen low. I will be using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as aromasin throughout the whole test cycle and post cycle therapy (pct). Pct will be clomid since I heard that its best for kick-starting your natty test. Can I expect a 20-25lb gain from 8 weeks of test? Should I just forget about ph's and go with test? My goal is to by 185 at 8% bf

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-got a great deal on sdrol and sdmz2. never bothered getting test b/c i dont have a source and I'm scared of the law. I'm also scared of lactation and high estrogen.
-friend offered a good deal on 8 week supply of test
-Idk if i should drop ph's for good and go with test (put money aside).
 
I recommend to wait tell your old enough to not be worrying about growth plates being sealed. Because that makes me think your 17-22. Honestly man you don't need pro hormones or steroids to do a physique competition. You could always bulk up naturally and then cut down and get ripped for you physique competition. From some of the things you have said like testosterone causing lactation it is obvious you do not know much about steroids and have not studied them. I recommend you read all the stickies at the top of this page talking about beginner cycles and estrogen management and all that good stuff. Superdrol by the way is a real steroid it was legal at one point. But it is much more powerful than most oral steroids that are illegal. And it has very strong side effects. I really recommend if you are in the age group I spoke of that you wait tell you are older. I cycled around 18 and it honestly made life a lot harder. Your hormones around that age are already fluctuation and its hard enough to keep your head on straight around that age. I assume if you where older you would not be talking about your growth plates. So this is what lead me to giving you this response. You got to remember man people just want money they are not looking out for your well being.
 
Why are you messing with AAS or PH's when your natty test is at a high point in your life? I would wait till you are a few years older, but you will do what you want.........From what I understand is that 8 weeks of test is not a good beginner cycle, 12 weeks is a good start. What brand Sdrol do you have?
 
Mad- scientist said:
I recommend to wait tell your old enough to not be worrying about growth plates being sealed. Because that makes me think your 17-22. Honestly man you don't need pro hormones or steroids to do a physique competition. You could always bulk up naturally and then cut down and get ripped for you physique competition. From some of the things you have said like testosterone causing lactation it is obvious you do not know much about steroids and have not studied them. I recommend you read all the stickies at the top of this page talking about beginner cycles and estrogen management and all that good stuff. Superdrol by the way is a real steroid it was legal at one point. But it is much more powerful than most oral steroids that are illegal. And it has very strong side effects. I really recommend if you are in the age group I spoke of that you wait tell you are older. I cycled around 18 and it honestly made life a lot harder. Your hormones around that age are already fluctuation and its hard enough to keep your head on straight around that age. I assume if you where older you would not be talking about your growth plates. So this is what lead me to giving you this response. You got to remember man people just want money they are not looking out for your well being.
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yea really am 21 years old. I've done tons of research on ph's and am learning about aas. I'm mainly looking to put on mass with a cycle. I can cut down on my own naturally.
 
craigs449 said:
Why are you messing with AAS or PH's when your natty test is at a high point in your life? I would wait till you are a few years older, but you will do what you want.........From what I understand is that 8 weeks of test is not a good beginner cycle, 12 weeks is a good start. What brand Sdrol do you have?
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Yea I've also read that 12 weeks is the best for a starter cycle but that seems like quite a while. I bought the lgi sd-10. It's selling super quick on ebay for a hefty price. This is why I'm thinking of selling it and getting the test
 
First of all, you don't even know what these products are...and you should never use shit when you don't even know what it is.

Secondly, nothing you just mentioned is a fucking PH (sorry, but it burns me the hell up when I see people call steroids PH's). S-drol is Superdrol (a steroid)...and Super DMZ 2.0 contains a combination of Dimethazine and methylstenbolone...both 2 steroids.

SD is one of the strongest oral steroid EVER made. Mg for mg, testosterone can't come close to touching SD in terms of growth potential, but SD is methylated, so you can't run it for month after month like you can with testosterone. Dimethazine is also methylated...and very potent, as well. It has been clinically shown to be a better muscle builder (mg per mg) than Anadrol, Winstrol, methyltst, and test prop. These are not supplement company funded studies, but 100% legitimate univeristy studies done for information purposes when making prescription drugs. Dimethazine was used in 2 prescription drugs...one script drug in Italy and another in Mexico (both are long discontinued). Methylstenbolone is also methylated and very potent, although not quite as strong as the aforementiond two. Still, it is certainly stronger than something like Dianabol on a mg per mg bais...no doubt.

The point here is that these are real (and potent) oral steroids and you need to know what in the hell you are doing before you make decisions. You need to reserach what ALL these drugs are, what effects they have in the body, and how to use them properly. Once you have the answers to these questions, you can make your own 'educated' decision about what is best for you.

It is stuff like this that gives steroid users a bad name. I am not trying to come down on you, but you approach the subject of steroid use in a nonchalant, who cares fashion...asking people what you should and shouldn't use without even bothering to research this stuff yourself. I get the impression that if people here told you to take 10 caps of mdrol per day, you would do it. If I told you to go inject yourself with a fucking gram of heroin, would you do that? Then why would you listen to anyone about this stuff when you don't know what it is?

It is relatively easy to find out what effect each of these drugs has on your body and if they are compatable with your goals. Take care of yourself. :)
 
You really do sound like a young kid. Just stay natty bro. Seems like your on your way to possibly fucking yourself up for life. Research "TRT" so that you can learn the consequences of playing around with AAS.
 
Mike Arnold said:
First of all, you don't even know what these products are...and you should never use shit when you don't even know what it is.

Secondly, nothing you just mentioned is a fucking PH (sorry, but it burns me the hell up when I see people call steroids PH's). S-drol is Superdrol (a steroid)...and Super DMZ 2.0 contains a combination of Dimethazine and methylstenbolone...both 2 steroids.

SD is one of the strongest oral steroid EVER made. Mg for mg, testosterone can't come close to touching SD in terms of growth potential, but SD is methylated, so you can't run it for month after month like you can with testosterone. Dimethazine is also methylated...and very potent, as well. It has been clinically shown to be a better muscle builder (mg per mg) than Anadrol, Winstrol, methyltst, and test prop. These are not supplement company funded studies, but 100% legitimate univeristy studies done for information purposes when making prescription drugs. Dimethazine was used in 2 prescription drugs...one script drug in Italy and another in Mexico (both are long discontinued). Methylstenbolone is also methylated and very potent, although not quite as strong as the aforementiond two. Still, it is certainly stronger than something like Dianabol on a mg per mg bais...no doubt.

The point here is that these are real (and potent) oral steroids and you need to know what in the hell you are doing before you make decisions. You need to reserach what ALL these drugs are, what effects they have in the body, and how to use them properly. Once you have the answers to these questions, you can make your own 'educated' decision about what is best for you.

It is stuff like this that gives steroid users a bad name. I am not trying to come down on you, but you approach the subject of steroid use in a nonchalant, who cares fashion...asking people what you should and shouldn't use without even bothering to research this stuff yourself. I get the impression that if people here told you to take 10 caps of mdrol per day, you would do it. If I told you to go inject yourself with a fucking gram of heroin, would you do that? Then why would you listen to anyone about this stuff when you don't know what it is?

It is relatively easy to find out what effect each of these drugs has on your body and if they are compatable with your goals. Take care of yourself. :)
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I agree. I've done tons of research on orals but honestly not much on aas. I already knew everything that you've mentioned about sdmz and sdrol but I still appreciate your input. That being said, I dont think I'll be buying aas haha. I'll just stick with the sdmz. Sdmz is very compatible with my goal.
 
MustangDX said:
You really do sound like a young kid. Just stay natty bro. Seems like your on your way to possibly fucking yourself up for life. Research "TRT" so that you can learn the consequences of playing around with AAS.
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I'm really 21 years old. Idk if thats "really young" in your books though. Ive done lots of research on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as well. Overall, I dont plan on doing very many cycles in my lifetime.
 
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sherzer213 said:
I'm really 21 years old. Idk if thats "really young" in your books though. Ive done lots of research on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as well. Overall, I dont plan on doing very many cycles in my lifetime.
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You shouldn't start AAS until your at least 25. At the age of 25 is when your natty test levels start to decline so that's when you would want to jump on AAS.
 
sherzer213 said:
I agree. I've done tons of research on orals but honestly not much on aas. I already knew everything that you've mentioned about sdmz and sdrol but I still appreciate your input. That being said, I dont think I'll be buying aas haha. I'll just stick with the sdmz. Sdmz is very compatible with my goal.
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Apparently, you must've not read the part where iIsaid Super DMZ is AAS...because in your very next post you sat you won't be buying AAS and will just stick with DMZ. WTF? Super DMZ is AAS! You say you already knew everything I just posted, yet you don't even know that DMZ is a steroid! That's pretty fucking basic, don't you think? You should be looking at DMZ just like you would dianabol, testosterone, etc.

DMZ is a great combination of steroids and works very well, but if you think you are doing our body a favor by staying away from injectables and relying solely on orals...you're NOT! Orals are HARDER on your system overall and cause all the same issues injectables do. In BB'ing, orals are meant to support injectable use...NOT be the staple of your PED regimen.
 
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