Planned 16wk cycle - please critique (constructively!)

bigben66

bigben66

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OK guys... I'm using some forethought and planning a 16 week cycle for the end of the year leading up to a much needed vacation in sunnier climes...

I'm 42, 205lbs, 5ft 9" and currently at 10-12% bf.... although I'll be a tad heavier by the time I start the cycle as I am dropping the reps and upping my carbs from now til then... This will be my 6th Test based cycle...

Weeks 1-4
800ml Test 400 mix blend (2 x 400ml pins every 3.5 days)
600ml Equipoise (2 x 300ml every 3.5 days) -
50mg Dianabol per day

Weeks 5 - 16
750ml Test E (2 x 375ml pins every 3.5 days)
600ml Equipoise (2 x 300ml every 3.5 days)

Weeks 12 - 16
Anavar - 90mg daily (split between am and pre-workout)

Weeks 1 -16
HCG - 500iu (2 x 250iu pins every 3.5 days)
AI - Aromasim - need help with dosages please!....

Weeks 17 - 18
VACATION!!! :)

Weeks 20 - 25 (6 weeks PCT due to my age!)
Clomid - 100/100/50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/40/20/20/20

Due to the Equipoise raising hematocrit - I have planned blood donations before and after the cycle (I'd do one in the middle - but they won't allow donations so close together at my local clinic)

I have also obtained sublingual Vit B12 5000mcg lozenges, N-Acetyl Cysteine and Liv 52 to run the duration of the cycle.

The reason I am starting the cycle with the Test 400 blend is because I had it left over from my last cycle - I figured the shorter esters would get me kickstarted along with the D'Bol...?

My questions are....
Can I finish the Test E and the Equipoise together? (unsure of the difference in esters...)
Anyone have any experience of running the Test and Eq together at these planned dosages?
Recommendations for the Aromasim dosages? (Never really suffered Estrogen related problems on previous cycles)
Anyone think I should add anything to my cycle?

Thanks in advance fellas - be constructive - I know I'm in good hands! :)

Be healthy
BigBen
 
I like to add a little deca or npp for joints. The orals are more than I would do, but I'm guessing you're used them all before and know what feels right to you. I've never run Equi so I have nothing to add on that.
 
I'd say drop EQ and run primo or.mast...eq will have your blood looking like mud and you.will need to donate blood a few times to run it safely. And at your age (no.offense) I don't think you wanna be fuckin with blood pressure.
I'd say just run a single ester the entire cycle. No need to make it complicated.
And I agree with Rumpy on the orals. I'd drop Dbol and just run the var the last 6 weeks.
Make sure you have NAC for liver as well.
 
frank.tb said:
I'd say drop EQ and run primo or.mast...eq will have your blood looking like mud and you.will need to donate blood a few times to run it safely. And at your age (no.offense) I don't think you wanna be fuckin with blood pressure.
I'd say just run a single ester the entire cycle. No need to make it complicated.
And I agree with Rumpy on the orals. I'd drop Dbol and just run the var the last 6 weeks.
Make sure you have NAC for liver as well.
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Doh! I've already got the Test and Eq on hand... I've ran Eq a couple of times before with no blood issues and good results...
But thanks, I hear what you're saying, I'll be sure to either donate or drain as frequently as possible...
I also heard supplementing with Taurine is good for counteracting high BP?
Any reason for dropping the D'Bol Frank? I haven't ordered the D'Bol yet... could get T'Bol or something else to get me kickstarted if you think it'd work better...?
 
bigben66 said:
Doh! I've already got the Test and Eq on hand... I've ran Eq a couple of times before with no blood issues and good results...
But thanks, I hear what you're saying, I'll be sure to either donate or drain as frequently as possible...
I also heard supplementing with Taurine is good for counteracting high BP?
Any reason for dropping the D'Bol Frank? I haven't ordered the D'Bol yet... could get T'Bol or something else to get me kickstarted if you think it'd work better...?
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Just me personally.I.wouldn't incorporate that much.oral supplementation.
Standard protocol for orals is 6weeks...var is a lot more mild and is needed for the results you want.
And I want to say EQ and Dbol together is cholesterol central.
Also you want to come out lean so why bloat up with Dbol?
And as far as bp is concerned I'm not sure...I know Cialis can help and supplementing about 400mg magnesium helps "lubricate" the blood. Keeps platelets from sticking together.
And if you are set on a kickstart, drop the var and just run Tbol in the kickstart. It won't bloat you like a balloon.
 
Hey BigBen can't believe I missed this! What are your goals for this cycle, they're important to know to help narrow down everything.

As for aromasin, if you do run dbol it is aromatizable and so is testosterone and equipoise. That means you'll have 3 aromatizing compounds at once in the beginning of the cycle so my suggestion to you is start aromasin at 25mg ED from day one.

Boldenone undecylenate has around a 14day half life whereas test e is more like 4-7days (depending on the source). You can't stop the two together otherwise you'll still be waiting for EQ to fully metabolize while the test will already have been fully metabolized. This means you can't start PCT but you'll have NO testosterone in your system for a few weeks. My recommendation is to stop EQ a MINIUM of 1wk before the test E but preferably more like 2wks before. This should give it enough time to fully metabolize out.

No experiences with EQ but you can check out Kazmir's log in the my cycle forum. He's a great guy and is running EQ now.
 
DreDay187 said:
Hey BigBen can't believe I missed this! What are your goals for this cycle, they're important to know to help narrow down everything.

As for aromasin, if you do run dbol it is aromatizable and so is testosterone and equipoise. That means you'll have 3 aromatizing compounds at once in the beginning of the cycle so my suggestion to you is start aromasin at 25mg ED from day one.

Boldenone undecylenate has around a 14day half life whereas test e is more like 4-7days (depending on the source). You can't stop the two together otherwise you'll still be waiting for EQ to fully metabolize while the test will already have been fully metabolized. This means you can't start PCT but you'll have NO testosterone in your system for a few weeks. My recommendation is to stop EQ a MINIUM of 1wk before the test E but preferably more like 2wks before. This should give it enough time to fully metabolize out.

No experiences with EQ but you can check out Kazmir's log in the my cycle forum. He's a great guy and is running EQ now.
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His goals are to cut for his vacation...
 
DreDay187 said:
Hey BigBen can't believe I missed this! What are your goals for this cycle, they're important to know to help narrow down everything.

As for aromasin, if you do run dbol it is aromatizable and so is testosterone and equipoise. That means you'll have 3 aromatizing compounds at once in the beginning of the cycle so my suggestion to you is start aromasin at 25mg ED from day one.

Boldenone undecylenate has around a 14day half life whereas test e is more like 4-7days (depending on the source). You can't stop the two together otherwise you'll still be waiting for EQ to fully metabolize while the test will already have been fully metabolized. This means you can't start PCT but you'll have NO testosterone in your system for a few weeks. My recommendation is to stop EQ a MINIUM of 1wk before the test E but preferably more like 2wks before. This should give it enough time to fully metabolize out.

No experiences with EQ but you can check out Kazmir's log in the my cycle forum. He's a great guy and is running EQ now.
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Fantastic input Dre.... thanks brother.... the advice on the esters is invaluable... I'll adjust my cycle plan now.
I'll check out Kazmir's log later this evening, thanks for the link :)
 
frank.tb said:
Just me personally.I.wouldn't incorporate that much.oral supplementation.
Standard protocol for orals is 6weeks...var is a lot more mild and is needed for the results you want.
And I want to say EQ and Dbol together is cholesterol central.
Also you want to come out lean so why bloat up with Dbol?
And as far as bp is concerned I'm not sure...I know Cialis can help and supplementing about 400mg magnesium helps "lubricate" the blood. Keeps platelets from sticking together.
And if you are set on a kickstart, drop the var and just run Tbol in the kickstart. It won't bloat you like a balloon.
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Noted Frank.... I've heard good things about T'bol... I'll have to see if 'my guy' can get this instead...
Your view on D'bol kickstart bloat makes sense... Would say 40mg daily of T'Bol be a good start point for my first time using it?
Magnesium and Cialis advice also noted...
I did note that Austinite was a big Cialis fan and advocated 10mg daily...
Again, I'll have to try and acquire some between now and the end of the year...

Cheers for the input fellas - it's all greatly appreciated :)
BigBen
 
Don't forget liver supps...
NAC...can find it bulk on amazon or in cap form...local mainstream grocery stores carry it as well. But don't get it from a health food store. They will charge you out the ass for it.
 
frank.tb said:
Don't forget liver supps...
NAC...can find it bulk on amazon or in cap form...local mainstream grocery stores carry it as well. But don't get it from a health food store. They will charge you out the ass for it.
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I've already got NAC and Liv 52 ready to go... along with sublingual Vitamin B12 (Jarrows)
 
bigben66 said:
Really? The half life of Test Enanthate is only 4-7 days?
I'm sure I read somewhere that Test E was a long ester compound?
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Half life isnt the amount of time it stays in your system.
Hence "half life"
Propinate pct is started about 5 days after last pin so half life roughly 2.5 days or less which is why it is pinned every other day. So test e has a 7 day half life so you start pct 14 days after last pin. I may be a little off on the numbers but you get the concept.
Test E is a long ester, but undeconate is longer lol. They have different half lives and lives of existence in the blood stream.
 
bigben66 said:
Really? The half life of Test Enanthate is only 4-7 days?
I'm sure I read somewhere that Test E was a long ester compound?
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There are many different kinds of half lives in chem and bio but the two we're primarily concerned with here are terminal (or elimination) half life and active half life. The former is a measure of how long for serum levels to be reduced by 1/2 and the latter is regarding the drugs biological/physiological effects.
 
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