Planning first cycle on Tbol.

0.5mg EOD... Its possible, but why?... this is your first cycle, your first cycle is the best and you want to get the most out of it.

And for a first cycle I would never, ever, ever, ever do a cut... a complete waste of a first cycle... if you really want to cut just go back to your boxing regmine (I used to box as well).. and although I wasnt as big, I was ripped.

To Recap:

- Do I recommend you cycle now, No.
- If you do cycle, do a bulk or a lean bulk and go at least 12 weeks, I prefer 16 to 20 week cycles, but I only cycle once a year and am on TRT for the rest of the year (possibly because I hit the gear at 17).


Week 1 to 6: Tbol 50mg a day.
Week 1 to 8: 500mg Test E a week.
Week 1 to 8: 500iu HCG 2X a week.
Week 1 to 8: Arimidex EOD.

Weeks 8 to 12: Nolva/Clomid PCT.

?
 
Week 1 to 6: Tbol 50mg a day.
Week 1 to 8: 500mg Test E a week.
Week 1 to 8: 500iu HCG 2X a week.
Week 1 to 8: Arimidex EOD.

Weeks 8 to 12: Nolva/Clomid PCT.

?

Doesn't make any sense to run a long ester like Enanthate for 6 weeks. Do you understand how esters affect the half life and resulting blood saturation levels?

I am guessing that you don't given the fact that you want to start PCT the day after your last injection.
 
Doesn't make any sense to run a long ester like Enanthate for 6 weeks. Do you understand how esters affect the half life and resulting blood saturation levels?

I am guessing that you don't given the fact that you want to start PCT the day after your last injection.

Simple mistake. What should I does Nolvadex at if I were to take 100MG of Anavar/Tbol mix a day for 5 weeks?
 
Simple mistake. What should I does Nolvadex at if I were to take 100MG of Anavar/Tbol mix a day for 5 weeks?

You clearly are not listening to what anyone says or even trying to understand what people are telling you. Best I can do is wish you well and I hope you don't do too much harm to yourself.

If you change your mind and decide to open your mind and try to start listening/learning we will be here to help.
 
You clearly are not listening to what anyone says or even trying to understand what people are telling you. Best I can do is wish you well and I hope you don't do too much harm to yourself.

If you change your mind and decide to open your mind and try to start listening/learning we will be here to help.

Brother, you can only reach out so many times.. You and the rest of the members did what you could... He'll be back, with a post on how to combat this or that..Let'em learn..

Help doesn't get handed to people this easy in life, shits on a platter of you ask me, and yet they see black and white!
 
AAS can shut down your natty test in just a couple short weeks. Damage is done already. Knowing that, get the best out of a bad situation by running a well planned cycle that gives you the best chance of 1- a full recovery and 2- achieving the goal you set in the beginning.

Short cycles call for short ester AAS- it makes no sense to use test e or cyp for 6-8 weeks when peal levels are achieved until week 4-5. Oral only cycles are a waste, and you'll be disappointed not to mention low t levels. Just know about week 3-4 your gonna start feeling like shit.

Try and take this and previous posts as you would a friend trying to point you in the right direction. Good luck bro.... seriously
 
You clearly are not listening to what anyone says or even trying to understand what people are telling you. Best I can do is wish you well and I hope you don't do too much harm to yourself.

If you change your mind and decide to open your mind and try to start listening/learning we will be here to help.

AAS can shut down your natty test in just a couple short weeks. Damage is done already. Knowing that, get the best out of a bad situation by running a well planned cycle that gives you the best chance of 1- a full recovery and 2- achieving the goal you set in the beginning.

Short cycles call for short ester AAS- it makes no sense to use test e or cyp for 6-8 weeks when peal levels are achieved until week 4-5. Oral only cycles are a waste, and you'll be disappointed not to mention low t levels. Just know about week 3-4 your gonna start feeling like shit.

Try and take this and previous posts as you would a friend trying to point you in the right direction. Good luck bro.... seriously

Yup.

I can only tell them the fire is hot; some folks just HAVE to stick their hands in it to find out. :doh:

I understand what you are all saying and understand about the long ester T and the whole lot of it. But I am just curious as to if you guys think I should do 100MG/50MG of Anavar TBOL mix and how much I should dose my Nolva at and for how long after?

I know many people that haven taken eight week tbol cycles and were fine.

( I am talking about an oral only cycle)
 
Last edited:
I understand what you are all saying and understand about the long ester T and the whole lot of it. But I am just curious as to if you guys think I should do 100MG/50MG of Anavar TBOL mix and how much I should dose my Nolva at and for how long after?

I know many people that haven taken eight week tbol cycles and were fine.

( I am talking about an oral only cycle)

I don't think we can be any clearer in saying that males should not run oral-only cycles. If you are in fact a male, do not do this -- even if you know other males that have done it.

Is English your native language?
 
I understand what you are all saying and understand about the long ester T and the whole lot of it. But I am just curious as to if you guys think I should do 100MG/50MG of Anavar TBOL mix and how much I should dose my Nolva at and for how long after?

I know many people that haven taken eight week tbol cycles and were fine.

( I am talking about an oral only cycle)

How about test only and a lot of reading first?

Actually pretty sure at least one person already suggested this...
 
I don't think we can be any clearer in saying that males should not run oral-only cycles. If you are in fact a male, do not do this -- even if you know other males that have done it.

Is English your native language?

So if that's true why aren't they screwed up?
 
Who says they aren't? Can you show me their pre-cycle Natty baseline TT levels and current Natty TT levels?

What do you recommend then on a 10 week cycle of Test E 500MG a week 250mg x2 a week.

What else do you recommend taking as PCT? Do I need anything during
 
nolva or clomid is to be taken every day in pct, not every 3 days.
also wait till age 25. internal development should not be hulted or screwed up at 20, u got a few more years (not talking height)
 
What do you recommend then on a 10 week cycle of Test E 500MG a week 250mg x2 a week.

What else do you recommend taking as PCT? Do I need anything during
when ready:
12-14 weeks of test , 400-500mg ew
wk1 to pct start AI for estro control
pct: 20mg nolva ed and 50mg clomid ed for 4-5 weeks


do blood work before and 2 months after pct.


i highly rec you wait a few years though
 
I like arimidex 1mg per week is my sweet spot with 500mg of test, since it stops anymore conversion while you're taking it
 
I like arimidex 1mg per week is my sweet spot with 500mg of test, since it stops anymore conversion while you're taking it
Only 1mg a week?

12-14 weeks of test , 400-500mg ew
wk1 to pct start AI for estro control
pct: 20mg nolva ed and 50mg clomid ed for 4-5 weeks

Id like to also start off with running an oral cycle for 6 weeks then add the test in
 
Only 1mg a week?

12-14 weeks of test , 400-500mg ew
wk1 to pct start AI for estro control
pct: 20mg nolva ed and 50mg clomid ed for 4-5 weeks

Id like to also start off with running an oral cycle for 6 weeks then add the test in

StIll refusing to listen? Do you think if you keep asking the same question over and over again that eventually someone will give you the answer you are hoping to hear?
 
Back
Top