Please help me I'm a newbie and confused.

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joeban

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My name is joeban from India. I'm 22 years old. And I'm lookin for someone to help me with my first cycle. I currently weigh 72kgs at 5'8" height and fat percent 20%. I used to be 76kgs and 25.5% fat. I have been training consistently for 4months. And I am happy with the results. But I'm hopin for some help from the expert guys here on using steroids.

I juz finished my med school and I'm a doctor. So please don't discourage me bout steroid use I know about steroids and all the side effects and I have strongly decided to use it with some extra knowledge I gain from you guys here.

My goal is to get a six pack abs losin all that extra fat and get a toned beach body look. I'm not lookin for some crazy bulkin and stuff. I juz want a impressive beach body model look. Like those male underwear models. Juz decent gain for that lean mass fitness model look.

Please suggest me with a good cycle. This is my first cycle. I love my hair and I'm really young. And in a place like India I will never be able to get married if I have a thinning hairline or baldness. So please suggest doses that does not cause side effects yet I can see some reasonable changes in my physique and appearance. I want a good cycle which does not affect my sex drive or any psychological imbalance. I also don't wanna use oral steroids due to the strain on the liver. I have access to all steroids since I'm a doctor. I can get deca,test,sustanon, boldenone,winstrol, and post cycle therapy (pct) drugs.

Thank you. Please please please help me.
 
first drop more bf before u cycle.Bf cause more sides,do a test only cycle E or C if u cant get that sust will do.500mg split in two shots mon thurs.Use arimidex or aromasin for E2 control and clomid nolva for pct.
 
Please elaborate on how many weeks I should take and about how I should take arimidex. And about when I should start post cycle therapy (pct) from my last dose and for how many weeks I should run it. Will I have any side effects on this cycle. Hair loss or anything??

Thanks bro much appreciated.
 
do 12-14 weeks depending on the ester of the test will tell u when to start post cycle therapy (pct).For example C or E post cycle therapy (pct) will be 2 weeks after your last.With sust I would wait 3 weeks because of the long ester in sust.Arimidex u can start from week 1 at .25 eod and work your way up say .5eod by week 4.Or u can hold off the arimi and wait to see if u need it.Pct will last for 4 weeks clomid 100mgr 2 weeks 50mg for the next 2 weeks with nolva 40mg first two weeks 20mg for the next two weeks.Get blood work before u start in the middle of the cycle and after the post cycle therapy (pct) is over.
 
I say to start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after your last injection because u want your test levels to dropp before u start post cycle therapy (pct)
 
Thank you so much crazy juice. So can I take sustanon250 on Monday and Thursday for 12 weeks. And I do understand that we have to wait for the test level to go down in order to increase the natural test.

Btw will I experience any side effects. As I told earlier. I don't want hair loss. And will I be able to retain the gains at the end of the cycle?? And will I get the physique I'm aspiring.
 
Going from 26% bf to "underwear model" is going to be serious work.

Generally the recommendation is 500mg/wk of test for a first cycle. Since you have access to sustanon, why not two ampules (250mg ea) per week, run for 12-16 weeks? You really need to get your diet square because it sounds like your first is going to be a cut. What are you doing for training?
 
Hi thanks for sparing ur time and reply. I appreciate it.
Ok I'll get these drugs tomorrow. I'll juz have to write a prescription for myself ;)

Why shouldn't I do deca on my first cycle. Isn't it safe?

Will I get hair loss on this cycle ur recommending?
Can I expect to lose some fat on this cycle?

I'm on high protein diet and I'm training with a personal trainer everyday. He really pushes me and trains me hard towards my goal. I trust his training.

My diet currently is
1scoop whey protein on wake up

I hve salad for brunch

Lunch is 200gms of chicken breast and little carbs

Post work out I take 2 scoops of 100% gold standard whey
And 5 eggs whites.

And for dinner I take 300gms of chicken breast.

I think my diet is insufficient. But I'm lookin to improve once on my cycle.

What do u suggest by "diet square" while on cycle?
 
Ok I will do the test only cycle as its most recommended for a first cycle. But will 500mg of test E be hard on my hair line? I'm feel I'm prone to make pattern baldness already. I like deca personally b'coz it's light on the hairline. But again I'm afraid bout the serious suppression in natural hormon it causes.
 
Sorry, american english colloquialism. I just meant you need to have your diet totally correct. I wouldn't recommend deca because it's not something you'd use to cut, and I also wouldn't recommend it because it's your first cycle.

The difference between a "cut" cycle and a "bulk" cycle is diet, mostly. If you run at a calorie deficit, you can lose fat this cycle. But since it's a first cycle, you will probably gain mass -- muscle mass -- while you lose fat. This is called "recomposition" or "recomp" for short. So pay less attention to the scale and more attention to your body fat percentage. Use calipers.

All male hormones can lead to accelerated hair loss if you are prone to it already, but testosterone by itself (compared to something like trenbolone) will be mild.

Don't you want to look like Rajnikanth?? :)
 
Hahaaaa ok but we follow British English in India :). Ok I will take deca totally out of the equation.

Like you figured out perfectly my first cycle is goin to be cut as well as some muscle mass gaining. Recomposition like you call it.
Ok here is wat I'm goin to do.

I'm gonna run Test E 400-500 per week for 10-12 weeks

Or

Like u said Sust 250mg x 2 INJ per week for 10-12 weeks.

Then go to a endocrinologist who is also my friend and works for the same hospital for my post cycle therapy (pct).

Which will be better on my hairline test E cycle or Sust?
And should I be takin anti-E during the cycle? Or juz keep then in hand incase i feel the symptoms n then take wen necessary. Which anti-E do u suggest and dosage.

Lol. I'm surprised to know u heard of RAJINIKANTH. LOL. :D I'm from the same city.. his house is juz 13miles away from mine.:D:)
 
So what u mean is I gotta concentrate and watch out on my BF % on this cycle and work on diet and training appropriately and not concentrate on the weighing scale. Right?
 
crazy juice said:
wtf u think people will hold your hand..Do some studying
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Don't be rude bro. I didn't a lot of studyin. But definitely no studyin is better than experience. So wat do u think. I'm gonna run test E 400-500 per week for 10-12 weeks

Or

Like u said sust 250mg x 2 INJ per week for 10-12 weeks.

Then go to a endocrinologist who is also my friend and works for the same hospital for my post cycle therapy (pct).

Which will be better on my hairline test E cycle or sust?
And should I be takin anti-E during the cycle? Or juz keep then in hand incase i feel the symptoms n then take wen necessary. Which anti-E do u suggest and dosage.
 
The idea behind lowering your body fat before starting steroids is that adipose tissue aromatizes testosterone. So you might want to keep arimidex on hand to control your estrogen levels if you're going to do the cycle. In order to know what your estrogen is, you need to get blood tests. Sounds like that won't be a problem for you.

And yes, you will gain muscle which weighs more than fat. Because of this, you may actually gain weight on cycle, but your goal is body fat percentage, not mass, correct? (if you are a competitive athlete the actual weight is more important, but you're not, right?)
 
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