Pls HELP! My testosterone's still HIGH during PCT wk2

[tgfl1990]

I was on Test 500 + Deca 500 + Aromasin 6.25 mg/d for 12 wks.

My blood test on Wk8 of cycle (1/6/17)
Testosterone (1.93 - 8.36 ng/ml) >15
Estradiol (E2) (25.8 - 60.7 pg/ml) 46.31
Progesterone (0.2 - 1.4 ng/ml) 3.72
Prolactin (0 - 20 ng/ml) 33.82
FSH (0 - 8 mIU/ml) <0.1
LH (0 - 6 mIU/ml) <0.1

After 12 wk, i waited for 2 wks then started PCT with Nolva 20/20/20/20 + Clomid 300Day1/100/50/50/-.

Here is My blood test after PCT for 2 wks (3/3/17)
Testosterone (1.93 - 8.36 ng/ml) 14.44
Estradiol (E2) (25.8 - 60.7 pg/ml) 33.63
Progesterone (0.2 - 1.4 ng/ml) 0.606
Prolactin (0 - 20 ng/ml) 12.06
FSH (0 - 8 mIU/ml) <0.1
LH (0 - 6 mIU/ml) <0.1

In my idea, My Test should be low or normal, and FSH,LH should be high.
But in fact, My Test is still high in spite of stopping Test for 4 wks. And, FSH,LH are still low.

What's wrong? Should I increase SERMS doses? Anyone can help? Thanks.

 

[appleton111]

thanks for the detailed reports, what are your stats? weight, bf%, age?

 

[SJC]

Well First you should waited a little while longer before you started PCT. Deca takes a lot longer to clear your system than test. Deca can also have false readings making your test levels seem highe than they actually are.

Don't worry about what our test levels are during PCT. Clomid raises your test levels during this time by kicking your pituitary into overdive to get your body making its own testosterone. If I were you I'd make my PCT a total of 5 weeks and then wait 4 weeks after that to see where your levels are.

 

[scorob777]

The deca has a half life of 15 days, so taking 2 weeks off means one half life. The last week's shot depot is still putting out half your 500mg/w dose, or about 250mg/w equivalent.

Same goes for the test depending on what type you used, you probably have from your last week over 150mg/w equivalent still being released.

These are rough ballpark figures, but assume they are in the ballpark - you have adding them together 400 mg/w still being released, while you body would naturally make 100 mg/w test (if it had an ester, 70 mg/w base).

So... you are still 4x natural production, so no way any PCT would ever work. I'm of the opinion people should switch to short esters at the end of their cycle, or be prepared to wait 3 to 4 half lives - two months in the case of deca. Switching to NPP and Test Prop would give you good results after two weeks off.