plz help with pct

[johndoe1000]

stats 27 185lbs

cycle as follows

weeks
1-10 test enth 600mg/week
1-10 deca 400mg/week
11-13 dbol 30mg day
11-20 test cyp 400mg/week
11-20 400mg eq week
14-20 50 mg tren acetate/day

so i'm sure there's some better ways i could have done it but i did what i had and made some solid weight 25lbs weight gains and real good strength gains. I want to keep it now. I have heard that orals are best for the last 2 weeks of cycle as the cyp wears off. I have 10000 iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 40 10mg nolvas. So i want to know since i had my last shot 5 days ago of cyp should i take like 30mgs of dbol a day for like 2 weeks while the cyp wears down then start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). I 'm afraid if i do nothing i will take a serious hit and if i start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) now it won't do sht. any help is greatly appreciated and dbol is only oral i have access to and i have no access to fast acting injectables

 

[WHINER]

was this ur first cycle

 

[sean usmc]

arimidex daily....imo and i really hope this isnt ur first cycle if it is ..you dont need all that let me know if its ur 1st cycle so we can trim it up a bit 4 u

 

[johndoe1000]

this is my 2nd cycle oh and height 5'9" i hit around 200lbs, but when i got on that tren and off the dbol i hit 190 but alot more solid. what's done is done and i would love some recomendations on my next cycle which i will have dbol, eq, cyp, enth, tren, levetrizol. So on to my real need, i did long esters at end of cycle i know now thats a mistake. So i have some dbol left should i get on it for next 2 weeks until the cyp, eq wears off then start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), or nothing and when to start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), how much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) each time and how far apart. plz help do i start the dbol since it drops out of sys quick and would that help retatin gains or just mess sht up

 

[johndoe1000]

oh i can't get anythimng else right now i have no $ so i need advice for what i have plz

 

[StoneColdNTO]

arimidex daily....

sean, you're suggesting he use Arimidex for his PCT?

Not a very wise choice. He should be getting ahold of some Clomid and some more Nolvadex as well.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

oh i can't get anythimng else right now i have no $ so i need advice for what i have plz

Buddy, you need to do alot of reading on running a proper PCT, especially after a 20 week cycle like you listed. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) alone is NOT going to cut it.

 

[johndoe1000]

man i need some advice with what i got, is using the dbol for the next two weeks gonna help the gains by keeping the slow drop in test levels that way they stay high and then drop quick then go right to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), then my 40 nolvadex 10mgs, and i am also getting some letrezol. that's what i got and i can't get anything else. so yea i need to do some reading, i will but plz just tell me how to most effectively use what i got, when to dose and how much to take and when to start each drug, and plz will taking the dbol for next two weeks help keep the gains, i read some stuff from author l rea that said using orals last few weeks is better cause test drops quick rather than slow from long esters so u are high test then low quickly so right to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG),

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Hey, you can do all the d-bol you want, but if you don't do a solid post cycle therapy (pct) you are going to crash and lose your gains. You do NOT have enough Nolva to run a proper post cycle therapy (pct), and you sould really be looking at getting Clomid as well. They are both inexpensive and you should be able to get them fairly quickly.

Letrozole is not for post cycle therapy (pct) by the way.

Sorry to tell you, but if you really can't get anything else, you are not headed in a good direction.

 

[sean usmc]

sean, you're suggesting he use Arimidex for his PCT?

Not a very wise choice. He should be getting ahold of some Clomid and some more Nolvadex as well.

read it slower and you will se what i ment....i said i hope this isnt ur first cycle and if it is then we can trim it up a bit......

 

[StoneColdNTO]

read it slower and you will se what i ment....i said i hope this isnt ur first cycle and if it is then we can trim it up a bit......

OK....show me where he asks about Arimidex or an other Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in his original post. The thread is titled post cycle therapy (pct) help.

You need to stop drinking buddy.

 

[johndoe1000]

can anyone help me with when to start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and how much to take how far apart? also when should i start the nolva? any other recomendations are great, i can always try to get more stuff, for some reason both my sources never come off and it just makes getting post cycle therapy (pct) drugs a little harder. Seriosly any help you can offer is greatly appreciated

 

[ripped86]

ya im in the same boat as johndoe1000. I need to know when to start my post cycle therapy (pct) and nolva after or during my Test Cypionate cycle?

 

[g1234]

IMO you had two cycles in this one, i would have done one 10w cycle with the test/deca and another one with the test/tren or test/eq but not 20w straight

i'm surprised someone that has been running every coumpounds in the same cycle still doesnt know how to plan a post cycle therapy (pct) correctly?!

about the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), if you havent run it during the cycle, the usual protocol is to inject 1500-3000 I.U. every 4th or 5th day, for a duration usually no longer than 2 or 3 weeks.

you dont have enough nolva for the post cycle therapy (pct) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) alone wont make it, can you get more nolva quick ? then take it at 20mg for three weeks as shown below

Timing the post cycle therapy (pct) correctly:
Back to applying the concept of Esters. Compounds bound to long acting esters require a longer waiting period for post cycle therapy (pct) to be administered. Likewise, compounds bound to short acting esters require a shorter waiting period for post cycle therapy (pct) to be administered.
Steroid.....Time After Administration.....Clomid Length
Aratest...........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Anadrol50/Anapolan50........8-12 hours.....3 weeks
Deca Durobolan................3 weeks........4 weeks
Dianabol..........................4-8 hours.......3 weeks
Equipoise.........................17-21 days.....3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone............3 days...........3 weeks
Primobolan Depot..............10-14 days.....2 weeks
Sustanon.........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Test Cypionate.................2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Enthenate/Testoviron..2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Propionate.................3 days..........3 weeks
Test Suspension................4-8 hours......2 weeks
Winstrol...........................8-12 hours.....2 weeks