Whats up guys... I bought my parachute and was just about to jump out the plane when I stumbled apon this site. Me and my cuzin have started working out again, its only been a couple months since he's worked out, I'm goin on about 3 years of partying without working out. I have always been lean and muscular from Martial Arts training ( I got 2nd in the junior olympics for sparring after traing from age 7) and football through out highschool ( a cornerback so you get the idea of my build ) I am 5' 8'' and went from 135lbs of lean muscle to 155lbs of fat in 3 years. I had packed on 20 lbs of fat over 3 years of drinkin beer and not working out due to having a baby, and becoming a manager at a store and coming home, plopping on the couch with a beer. One day I looked through some old pics and saw me in my prime, with my abs trying to rip through my skin, and a tone but not bulky body. I decided that the beer binge was over and started hitting the gyme again, I lost 12 lbs and I'm down to 143 lbs from cardio and mild workouts to get back in the grove to reduce pain on old minor sholder injurys. My cousin has been pumpin the idea of taking TEST in my ear almost the entire month and as of today took his first shot. He's allready a pretty big guy but he's young ( 20 years old) and after reading this forum I think now he should of gone natural a few more years. I was just about to buy some TEST me being a little older tommorrow but now I'm not so sure. I don't think I've got back in the groove long enough, or may be too young myself. Im also looking for more of a lean middle weight boxer look, than a Hulk Hogan look. I'm more interested in strength, endurance, and a tone look. So now decideing against TEST, I'm thinking Maybe some winny... is it too early for me to start using winstrol too? Well I gain at least a little but of muscle for my chest, and abs tone it up? what kind of results can I expect from just winstrol?And if so should I get needles or pills. I've had an over active bladder or somthing from partying which kinna makes me wanna stay away from pills. But then again a shot a day seems alot too. Should I go natty for awhile first or would I be safe and get the gains I'm looking for with some winstrol. Or should I take my fathers route and go test for the winter, and Winstrol (winny) in the summer to get any effects? Some times I think Some Test would help seeing I'm naturaly a small guy, I have small bones, a small head, small frame, and might not have as much Testosterone pumping through me naturally as most others. Anyway any advice would help.Thanks for your help guys.
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DocJ
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If I were you I'd see how much progress I could make since you've just got back into training. In general, I always advise people to try to reach as close to your natural max genetic potential b/f juicing...I realize this is easier said than done though 
Maybe I missed it but how old are you?
Maybe I missed it but how old are you?I'm 24 years old... what do you think on these subjects
"Some times I think Some Test would help seeing I'm naturaly a small guy, I have small bones, a small head, small frame, and might not have as much Testosterone pumping through me naturally as most others. Anyway any advice would help"
"And if so should I get needles or pills. I've had an over active bladder or somthing from partying which kinna makes me wanna stay away from pills. But then again a shot a day seems alot too."
"Some times I think Some Test would help seeing I'm naturaly a small guy, I have small bones, a small head, small frame, and might not have as much Testosterone pumping through me naturally as most others. Anyway any advice would help"
"And if so should I get needles or pills. I've had an over active bladder or somthing from partying which kinna makes me wanna stay away from pills. But then again a shot a day seems alot too."
DocJ
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I'd start off with getting some blood tests done just to be sure you're overall a healthy guy and also get your natural test levels checked. Yes, test will help anyone gain muscular bodyweight. If your buddy is injecting daily he's obviously using a short ester. You can use long esters that only require 1-2x/week dosing. I would suggest doing a lot more reading on this site to soak up as much info as possible before making a decision on any of this.
What kind of Blood tests..What would I ask my doctor when I went in. What good or bad things should I be looking for in these test, Because I don't wanna go "Hey doc...I"m thinking about taking steroids, Am I healthy enough for it" ya know.
And on the one shot a day, I was refering to Winstrol.
And on the one shot a day, I was refering to Winstrol.
Golden_Muscle
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Condense it if you want my reply! 
DocJ
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http://www.directlabs.com/index.php
http://www.health-tests-direct.com/blood_tests_blood_tests_types.htm
They have general health screening tests that include the kitchen sink. The only test you'd have to order separate is the one checking testosterone levels. We're mainly concerned about your lipid profile (cholesterol) and liver enzymes as these are the most dramatically affected with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use (especially if you're going to use orals).
http://www.health-tests-direct.com/blood_tests_blood_tests_types.htm
They have general health screening tests that include the kitchen sink. The only test you'd have to order separate is the one checking testosterone levels. We're mainly concerned about your lipid profile (cholesterol) and liver enzymes as these are the most dramatically affected with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use (especially if you're going to use orals).
Golden_Muscle said:Condense it if you want my reply!
I am 24 5' 8'' and went from 135lbs of lean muscle to 155lbs of fat in 3 years. I had packed on 20 lbs of fat over 3 years of drinkin beer and not working out
I decided that the beer binge was over and started hitting the gym again, I lost 12 lbs and I'm down to 143 lbs from cardio and mild workouts to get back in the grove to reduce pain on old minor sholder injurys.
My Cousin just took his first shot of TEST today and is trying to convice me to take it too.I don't think I've got back in the groove long enough, or may be too young myself. Im also looking for more of a lean middle weight boxer look, than a Hulk Hogan look. I'm more interested in strength, endurance, and a tone look
I'm thinking Maybe some winny... is it too early for me to start using winstrol too? Well I gain at least a little but of muscle for my chest, and abs tone it up? what kind of results can I expect from just winstrol?And if so should I get needles or pills. I've had an over active bladder or somthing from partying which kinna makes me wanna stay away from pills. But then again a shot a day of whinstrol seems alot too.
Should I go natural for awhile first or would I be safe and get the gains I'm looking for with some winstrol.
Or should I take my fathers route and go test for the winter, and Winstrol (winny) in the summer to get any effects? Some times I think Some Test would help seeing I'm naturaly a small guy, I have small bones, a small head, small frame, and might not have as much Testosterone pumping through me naturally as most others. Anyway any advice would help.Thanks for your help guys.
Golden_Muscle
Hybrid Athlete
SAINT-TX said:
ahhaha! thats condensed???? LOL!!!
Golden_Muscle
Hybrid Athlete
SAINT-TX said:
If you need to ask this, your not ready for aas.
Golden_Muscle
Hybrid Athlete
Also listen to DOCJ. Great advice.
Golden_Muscle said:
lol...jack ass...I knew you were gonna say that.Its Kinna hard when I want my background is essential to you the questions I'm asking. Aight thanks for the advice I guess I'll go natural for bit longer...How long should I go, or is it more of a when I "plateau." And Is winstol that strong of a steroid that you need to already be Pumping and in awesome shape before it will benefit you, or will it help give me a boost to start me off right.
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Golden_Muscle
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SAINT-TX said:
yeah, dont do the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) yet. Build a good base first at least, and get healthy before aas.
Golden_Muscle
Hybrid Athlete
SAINT-TX said:
Thats not smart. You should know how to train and eat right first, and know how to properly build muscle before wasting gear. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is used for a boost once you know what you are doing 100% and well into it.
exactly. Dont wana risk stunting ur growth and having that "small frame" foreverDocJ said:
outlawtas
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In all honesty man, there's not point in taking steroids unless you want to look jacked. You simply do not need to use them to be 140lbs of lean muscle, that is a very easy accomplishment - which you could achieve fairly fast naturally. At your height, you should be around 180-190lb before you consider using them.
And if you do, Test only first cycle.
And if you do, Test only first cycle.
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1) use test and test only for a first cycle. You can add Winstrol in later cycles.
2) injections are better.
2) injections are better.
Thanks guys..I think I'ma stick it out naturally for awhile I've been taking weekly pictures since I started, and will continue to do so, and will report back with my status and where I'm at in routines at a later date and ask your advice then. Any one got a good workout and diet plan for a work out without gear?
I'm 24 5'8'' 140lbs now (lost 3 more since I 1st posted)
I'm 24 5'8'' 140lbs now (lost 3 more since I 1st posted)
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